I am looking for 19ft tunnel hull pickle fork also 21mtr also looking for in board powered 23mtr and know their far and few 27mtr whould ask that all be cougar built in Canada
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I am looking for 19ft tunnel hull pickle fork also 21mtr also looking for in board powered 23mtr and know their far and few 27mtr whould ask that all be cougar built in Canada
buy the 23 from steve ? The boat in question if set up correctly will not chine walk or hop at 90 if you said is true raising motors made it better and it should time for low water pickups, what power you running?Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2gofast
For sure I don't have enough seat time in it yet. This is my first Cat, I've had Mod VPs for the last 20 years. I'm glad to hear it's not a common trait and I just need to learn what it wants. It has 300XS's with sportmasters and 3 blade 32 ET's with a little extra cup. I just bought a pair of 34 4 blade humpback cleavers to see what they will do. I hope that they will give me a bit of stern lift to get those heavy 300XS's out of the water quicker and carry the weight at a slower speed. For sure it doesn't need bow lift like my Lavey does. I expect the ET's will be better for top end but the cleavers may be better for general cruising. Any thoughts about what to expect from the different props? I've seen pictures of Cougars plumbed with water pickups on the boat and mine has a pair of fittings in the pod that are capped off. I'm interested in how well that works and if it's worth the trouble of setting it up that way. It seems to like the motors up high. I'll take all of the Cougar advice I can get!!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by eli
cleavers will lift stern ,you might want to get the low water pickups working so to raise motors to a height that the boat likes it , steve ran it with 280's at 120 and handled like a dream
The guy I got it from bought it without power and put the 300XS's on it. Almost twice the weight as 280's! I have a 280 on my Lavey and it's fun but I'm tired of rebuilding it every two or three years. I have low water pickups with the sportmasters, what do you mean I need to get them working. Are you talking about the inboard pickups?Quote:
Originally Posted by eli
Glad to see some else chimed in yes cougar tom built boat with I do believe to run and run well with 2.5 280 300x were the cats meow but way to heavy way better proformance with 280 their is cougar 25mtr with 300 on it and they are transom heavy I am running 280 on my cougar 25mtr and seeing 115 with little chop to brake it loose and feel their is more to get out of it with little more hight and playing with props and possible gearing in lower units my cougar 25mtr is one of the first out of mold if not number one was their advertising boat for hotboat magazine and they sat it up with evinrude outboard built out of Florida which later 280 came out which I have on it now and yes rebuilds are issues but keep set of power heads ready to go on and is fun boat just dated but fun and run it does
Luv2gofast your boat was in the seattle area all its life before it sold
Hull pickups ,my 23 daytona had 18 inch setback with hull pickups and propshaft height at 3 inch above my 22 twister does not have hull pickups and i,m limited to 1 3/4 above with 6 inch built in and 6 inch static jackplates if i try to lower motors to say 1 1/4 inch weird things happen to go fast smoothly the less lower unit in the water is best for handling
I remember this boat in seattle for sale and steve C bought it ,when he had it for sale no power i almost bought it but i had just bought the twister
Yep that's correct. Jim (Jwgmt) bought it with no power and had the 300XS's put on it then bought the blue 23 and sold this one to me. See post 102 & 103 in this thread when he had it out on the lower river by Yuma AZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by eli
Wow 3" above is probably out of the water for the pod, just the skeg in the water. It would be some work to use the hull pickups but something I will think about. Thanks for the replies.
Where will the Cougar 22 be built? I'm not familiar with Crazyfish Joe? Thanks StoneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hydrogasm
Stoney
They will be built in the Chicago and Joe plans to post more details on the project when they start production in the new year. Check out this thread:
https://www.screamandfly.com/showthr...22-Cougar-mold
It might something for you to consider, that way you order the colours that want and rig it yourself.
Thanks
Gary
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Originally Posted by stoneman
I will be watching! Thanks Gary!
I hope everyone had a great Christmas and are looking forward to 2020!! The big question is-"Did anyone get a Cougar under the tree?"
Thanks
Gary
While it wasn't under the tree, this 19 is pretty new to me. I bought it late August and have only had it out a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrogasm
Hopefully going to do some work on it over the winter, may even give it a new paint job as it looks like the red can't be refurbished.
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peterse90
Nice looking 19MTR. Have you tried wet sanding the red to see if you can bring it back and clear coat it? Just a thought. Keep us posted on your progress.
Thanks
Gary
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Originally Posted by peterse90
I would think being solid red it is already paint not gel, std was 3 color with options to add more gel colors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrogasm
Dave
Dave, I think you are right about it being painted. From the history I know of this 19 I think it came to Ontario about 4 years ago possibly from B.C. and one of the previous owners had a trucking company and his trucks were red. I know both Kelly Theaker and Frenchy83 owned this boat. I bought it from Frenchy83 and have talked with Kelly (who has been a big help).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Strong
Dave, would like to find a ski pylon and maybe a swim platform like you have on your 19.
Ski pylon is long gone on mine, never had swim platform. Dana, Rex, CP and others sell billet pylons and swim steps.Quote:
Originally Posted by peterse90
Dave
I am in the process of installing 14" x 28" Dana Billet step on mine with an Aqua-step ladder. I'll post some photos of it once it is complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Strong
Thanks
Gary
I finished installing the swim step yesterday and here are 3 photos of it. The lighting isn't very good in the back of my garage, so the quality is not as good as it should be but you get the idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrogasm
Thanks
Gary
Nicely done Sir- hope you wintered well .
Looking for info on a 23 MTR. Mine is getting water in the starboard sponson and can't figure out where it's getting in. It looks like it's completely sealed and it only has one bilge pump in the center pod in a small cavity. There are plastic screw-on covers under the rear seat to get access the each cavity but no drain holes for them to drain back to the plugs. Does that sound like the way they are all built? Full floor across the rear except for the small bilge pump sump?
How about something slightly different, a 1992 Cougar Classic Ski Machine. I've been looking for this boat, my Dad's old boat, for a long time now...if anyone's seen it PLEASE let me know.
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Should be a plug to let them drain, not sure on a 23.Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2gofast
Dave
Hi Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Strong
There is a plug in the back on all three hulls but if I reach back through the screw-on cover under the seat there is a bulkhead with no drain hole. Water gets trapped in that area and can't get out of the plug hole in the back. I should have taken pictures but the boat is 5 hours away now. Both my Baker and Lavey had three bilge pumps. The Cougar only has one in the middle. Hopefully someone witjh a 23 will post a picture of under and behind the rear seat so I can see if mine is the same.
Strange, not been inside a 23 before, they were pretty good about making sure the hull could be completely drained. Have seen smaller plugs used to drain water so all could run out the back. Type like a 10 or 12 aluminum boat hull plug.Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2gofast
Dave
Attachment 463558This year I update my Cougar 22 MTR with a 300R, I had it wrapped white and then had custom reflective decals made for it:)
Johnny FiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
Nice looking 22MTR. How does it run with the 300R? Do you have any before pictures? Where did it come from? We need more details, post them up. Welcome to the board.
Thanks
Gary
I posted in this thread way back on page 7:) I bought my ‘04 Cougar from a guy in Ottawa Ontario 4 years ago. He bought it from a guy in Toronto. The 300XS was installed by Boomer (Alex) while he worked at Top Gun Marine. The 300XS barely got this Cougar to 93mph, once! (Tall prop, useless unless I was alone, little fuel;) Typically With two in the boat, I’d run 88. I only have one test blast with the 300R, I hit 86 with a Dewald 4 blade 30x15
Johnny Five, keep us posted! I have a 22MTR with a 300xs and thinking about a 300R.
How do you like the overall driveability difference between the two engines? Low end torque? MPG? Etc...
Yesterday I tested a 32 pitch Bravo 1 and hit 95 mph, which is the fastest I’ve ever had this boat. I’m absolutely loving the torque of the 300R, it jumps on plane so easily! The 300XS I had previously laboured to get on plane. I used to “try” to run a Dewald 4 blade 30 pitch and the 300XS couldn’t get it past 5300 rpm, this 300R will take that same prop right to 6450!
I found the “best” place to drill a 6” hole in the floor right behind my rear seat (I will install a water tight deck plate) so that I could drill a 1” hole into the cavity in front of the rear-most cavity. I will also be adding sponson drains via brass threaded fittings. This way I can ensure there’s no water under my floor (it was full when I bought the boat). I also drilled a hole under the front seats so that I could suck the water out if that “compartment”. Then I went under my deck and through the little door at my kickolate and then drilled through the front of the front “compartment” (so that I can suck water out of the front compartments (turns out they were dry). I hope this makes sense:). Ask questions if necessary.Attachment 466275
Yes totally makes sense and I am having the same problem. I have 3 deck plates under my back seat, one for each sponson and one for the pod. I have drain plugs in all three spots in the rear but without cutting the floor out I have no idea where or how many compartments there are. I am getting water in the starboard sponson and can't find any way for it to get in. I have tried filling it with water while on the trailer and not a drip anywhere. Attachment 466294Attachment 466295Attachment 466296
there are 4 compartments in each sponson (in my boat anyway). I found most of my leaks were from my rub rail, so I removed it and resealed the joint and rivet holes.. I have pictures (of another Cougar 22 MTR, not mine) with the floor cut out. Shoot me a PM if you’d like to see under your floor. For me...I just found places to drill a 3/4” hole in inconspicuous places so I could suck out the water.
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Originally Posted by luv2gofast
here’s a little video I just made to explain how I am dealing with water under my floor.
https://youtu.be/jfTKKOGxiTw
I think mine's made about the same. I'll drill some holes and see if I can find any more trapped water. Thanks for the video!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
The other truck I used was after I drilled the small 3/4” hole, I would bend a coat hanger in a 90° bend and start with a 6” tail, I’d turn it while inside the hole and try to find the next bulkhead. If it doesn’t reach, make the tail longer:). That will help you get a mental image of what is under your floor, and help you decide where to drill the next small hole. Then I used a Flo N Go to suck the water out. I also used a scope camera to have a look inside.