#5 Gene Thibodaux 1986.
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#5 Gene Thibodaux 1986.
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Mr. Bill was not allowed by Mercury to sell/build any new OMC F1-V8 boats. I asked Billy for a new F1-V8 boat late 1983 and that's the answer he gave me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
Barry Woods raced a used Seebold with Evinrude V8 power ones but lost the transom.
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The SE (Second Effort) F1-V8 boats was only raced in the US and Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by ron54
I just got a private message and the SE boats was 17' 6" long. Thanks you very much for the info.
Here is one more picture of the #5 SE/Johnson V8 and its signed by Gene Thibodaux.
Picture credit: Tim Schroer
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Thanks for the size update.....who ever penned that hull should pleased with themselves.. can't see a bad line on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Now you have the answer powerabout..check post.. #2164Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
Took the “Zumba Queen” on a 100 miles Harley trip today with friends.
Lots of fun and a perfect day to ride
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17'6 same ( shorter) as a current f1 hull, they look lots bigger?Quote:
Originally Posted by ron54
#5 Gene Thibodaux SE/Johnson V8 3.5 liter looper, fuel injection and 6 inch mid section.
1986.
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#57 Ben Robertson Second Effort (SE-IV)Johnson V8 3.5 liter looper, fuel injection and 6 inch mid section.
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Pretty sure the SE boats length is 100% correct. The source was very involved in the US F1-V8 racing..:)Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
Ben Robertson in his #57 Second Effort (SE-Vlll) boat with Johnson V8 3.5 liter looper, fuel injection and 6 inch mid section.
Sorry for front missing in first picture.
1987
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More pictures from Toledo 1986.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Gene Thibodaux in his #5 Second Effort (SE-V) Johnson V8 3.5 liter looper, fuel injection and 6 inch mid section.
Pictures by Tim Schroer.
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UIM FORMULA BOATS – CAN WARTINGER JUSTIFY THE COCKPIT 4 INCH HEADROOM RULE?
26th March 2018
A ruling on the headroom in Formula cats has been in the pipeline for three or four years and is to be implemented this year. However, does Mr Wartinger, President of the International Medical & Safety Commission, and his seven man committee actually carry out serious tests on the various and often controversial rules they introduce? Are they aware that some of these rules carry huge financial penalties on boatbuilders?
As Mr Wartinger wings his way back to the USA from the UIM Awards dinner questions are being asked as to whether he is aware that the ruling we are referring to has left many boatbuilders in Europe uncertain of their future unless they belong to the wealthy UAE clubs. The new rule says that a 4 inch space must be allowed between the top of the drivers helmet and the cockpit roof and 4 inches either side of the helmet.…..WHY?
We have carried out extensive research on the subject and can find no evidence of incidents where a driver has been seriously injured by hitting his head on the roof of the cockpit. A boatbuilder has to carry out extensive and expensive development to gain 4 inches and surely it will depend on the height of the pilot. Philippe Chiappe and Cedric Deguisse are both over six foot whereas Marit Stromoy, Duarte Benavente and Mike Suzmura are just over five foot. If Stromoy’s seat is raised to enable her to see through the screen, her head almost touches the cockpit roof.
When the automotive industry introduces new safety ruling, they have the finances to carry out extensive testing, often destroying vehicles on the test programme. Does the marine industry enjoy such luxuries – of course not. How many tests has Mr Wartinger carried out on cockpit headroom, and has he any evidence showing injury to drivers who have hit the roof even in barrel-rolls? There have been isolated accidents when a pilot has injured his back after a barrel-roll, but the numbers could be counted on one hand. Does Mr Wartinger base his research on American built hulls, often elderly and constructed of timber, which don’t exist in Europe?
We were told that builders have had four years to implement the new rule, however, there are still several boats racing successfully today which are considerably older than four years. One of the longest running Formula classes, the German ADAC series, looks like it could grind to a halt as the builder of these small cats, Molgaard Racing, has said they cannot justify the huge expense of modifying a fleet of these craft to comply with the 4 inch ruling.
We wonder how many builders will duck the issue and withdraw from the sport, that is unless they are involved in new-builds. It will be interesting to see if any outfits arriving in Lithuania for the opening round of the World F2 championship get red-carded because their cocktpits do not comply with the new rules. UIM Commissioner for the event says, “Although I will feel very uncomfortable having to tell a driver he or she can’t race because their boat does not comply with the rules, I don’t have any option.”
https://raceboatinternational.com/fo...headroom-rule/
This is a beautiful picture..Look at all those F1-V8 boats getting ready to race 1985.
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where are all those engines now?
I dont think the Velden Racing F1-V8 boats was shorter than the Second Effort boats.
This is Francois Salabert's #3 Velden/Benson&Hedges/Johnson F1-V8 in Lyon, France 1985.
The #15 is Canada's Mark Rotharmel in a Burgess/Evinrude V8.
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One more beautiful F1-V8 starting line-up. This is Lyon, France 1985.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
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Well powerabout, its a very good question I do not have the answer to. Some is going to say they was destroyed by OMC/BRP but that's not true. They are somewhere out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
I know my F1-V8 engine is owned by a Police officer in Sweden and he do not want to sell it back to me..:)
Ben Robertson have one, maybe two. I think two in UK, one 12 inch mid and one 6 inch mid.
I heard the OMC race team crushed lots of stuff from the transporter?Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Were the majority of the engines leased or owned?
This is an interesting picture from 1988 I found in the cyber world showing #3 Francois Salabert's Second Effort boat (SE-VII) Evinrude V8 next to #1 Cees Van Der Velden and his Velden Racing boat with a Johnson V8.
The Second Effort boat looks longer because of the canopy over the driver, but are not.
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Not sure but most of the team/drivers I know purchased the equipment from OMC/Second Effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
#11 Bob Spalding Hodges/Pro One/Evinrude V8 3.5 liter looper, fuel injection and 6 inch mid section.
1985 safety cell.
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Roberto Saviero of Italy in his #4 Molinari/Evinrude F1-V8 1983. Sadly we lost Roberto in a testing accident back home at the Po river in Italy 1984.
R.I.P my friend.
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that hull looks short...
A fun start today.
I just got this Message from Roger Jenkins..
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The 1982 F1-V8 World Champ Roger Jenkins in his #9 Burgess/Carlsberg/Evinrude V8 3.5 liter, looper carb model.
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The 1983 F1-V8 World Champ Renato Molinari in his #18 Molinari/Martini/Evinrude V8 3.5 liter, looper carb model.
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Lasse it's a shame you can't get those two fellas to do some posting on here...many interesting tales to tell..Any chance??
Another successful Evinrude racer..:)
Fred Hauenstein
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Fred Hauenstein / Ron Hill / Evinrude V-6 overall win Parker 1978.
http://svera.se/blogg/fred-hauenstein-ron-hill-evinrude-v-6-overall-win-parker-1978/
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More Fred Hauenstein/Evinrude.
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Also known to drive a D Stock Hydro from time to time - but that's with another brand (like his 1968 record driving a Konig:p ).Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Hi ron54,Quote:
Originally Posted by ron54
Thanks for posting:
Well..here is some info..first Renato, I have had connections with Renato over in Italy a few times in a very nice way, but Renato is not comfortable in English.
I am updating Roger Jenkins all the time about what is going on in the cyber world regarding our racing back in the seventies and eighties. Been sending him copy's of post from other threads here at Scream & Fly. Rogers answers are always fun and full of humor but I can not post copy's in respect of some of his country men...:) :)
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Thank you Lasse. The Welsh are always remembered for 2 things......Their pretty girls and their sense of humour, so I understand..;)
London pit 1983 inside an old building. I am there somewhere with my #8 Burgess/Aspen/Evinrude. I am pretty good remember details but I do not remember being inside a building...
Well..maybe I do..suddenly something is telling me one year we got heavy rain and the roof was leaking bad..!!
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Hi Lasse ask Rodger if he still keeps in contact with his best Buddy and lifelong friend Willy Permain.https://www.screamandfly.com/images/icons/icon14.pnghttps://www.screamandfly.com/images/icons/icon12.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Arthur Mostert in his #2 Velden/Johnson F1-V8 3.5 liter, looper, fuel injection and 6 inch mid section.
A sharp eye can see there is no steering wires/cables.
Cees van der Velden started to use hydraulic power steering when he rigged the team boats..
The V8 racing outboard was tough the steer with the old style steering.
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Installed a sunshade today..you can see out but no one can see in..!!..:)
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