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    So how fast is the new Red openbow 25' Eliminator with 450's that was just finished up? Should be north of 150mph.....

    Or is it a heavy layup that is over #5,000 lbs and slow, old school bottom, and only set up for acceleration and the owner does not want to go fast......
    The Eliminator is a beautiful boat, just waiting to hear the high numbers or excuse of why it does not go fast.

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    I'd consider anything over 80 fast ,(I'm poor boy) but for the $$$$$$$$$ spent I would sure wanna see 150 from a rig like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDRURY View Post
    So how fast is the new Red openbow 25' Eliminator with 450's that was just finished up? Should be north of 150mph.....

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    Deeee planeeee

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    so my 12 yr old says
    "Dad, Grandpa's fishing dinghy does about 6mph with his 6hp, our whaler with the 35 does 35 mph and your Formula E does 70mph with its 70",
    "thats right" I say, "why do you ask"
    "I was wondering whats wrong with that 450 Merc"
    lol

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    I know who Mannerfelt is. His bat boats are fast. It is also a fact that his boats and Buzzi's have been upside down more than other designs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Poole ModVP View Post
    I know who Mannerfelt is. His bat boats are fast. It is also a fact that his boats and Buzzi's have been upside down more than other designs.
    So could you show proof? I know most of the offshore races are on the other side of the pond.

    http://www.batliv.se/wp-content/uplo...163-05-art.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    so my 12 yr old says
    "Dad, Grandpa's fishing dinghy does about 6mph with his 6hp, our whaler with the 35 does 35 mph and your Formula E does 70mph with its 70",
    "thats right" I say, "why do you ask"
    "I was wondering whats wrong with that 450 Merc"
    lol
    Put that 70 on your whaler and see if she does 70. When ya get that figured out then explain it to your boy.

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    Mannerfelt has always worked with bending water using the engery to gain lift ... They sold speed rails an aftermarket tack on

    https://books.google.com/books?id=u-...page&q&f=false


    This was my first Plug that I raced in ODBA you can see my imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, He has been my Hero designer for 30 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by CUDA View Post
    Well for your information Ocke Mannerfelt who designed the up side down bat boat that won 25 worldchampionships, also designed that 141 MPH Victory at least he started working for them 13 years ago, It's a very big company large ships to 19 race boats,



    The B28 became the new icon for efficiency and performance, and was actually banned for five years in APBA offshore racing because it was too fast and gave the rest of the fleet no competition. This ban was due to an over 5-minute lead on its competitors in each race, seeing speeds as high as the American World Speed record for A-class boats. The B28 design is protected by a United States patent, and
    ...wow, that's amazing. at the end of the five years, did everyone finally catch up?

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    https://youtu.be/esxxtLg8qJ4 ...poor quality video, but you get the idea. this was 25 plus years ago. cat design & bare hull weights DO make a difference.

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    Steve used to be on here. He is an very talented designer and builder. Every boat was a one off. I felt smarter after just talking to him.
    That M-11 ran so very flat. And flat is where it's at in an offshore cat.
    Last edited by XstreamVking; 06-13-2020 at 04:17 PM.

    83 V-King, 96 Mariner, ff block 2.5 w/a 28p chopper
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    there was also a 36 cheetah, that was powered with two regular Merc 200's, who's speed was well over 100 mph. if I posted the exact speed though, I would be ridiculed to no end, as it is unbelievable.
    Last edited by FUJIMO; 06-14-2020 at 08:59 PM.

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    Them "duck" boats should go 160 wiff a 450 R-uuuh ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    there was also a 34 cheetah, that was powered with two regular Merc 200's, who's speed was well over 100 mph. if I posted the exact speed though, I would be ridiculed to no end, as it is unbelievable.
    He was building them with a divinycell frame and skin, glassed over and faired. Then flipped and glassed, reinforced structure on the inside. Same with deck. Time consuming and tedious to say the least. This method allows the hulls to "evolve" and improve with each one produced.

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