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    Speaking of models......

    Here is an ad Merc had in Powerboat for a model of Bill Sirois' 1970 Havasu winning boat......I don't remember them making that, but I wish I would have bought two so that I could have made the model a Twin like it was supposed to be .......also, a "Model" shot of Seebold in what looks like Old Blue II, he really has it aired out......and, I told you that I got a promotion in 1973, here is the world shaking announcement that Merc put out about the creation of Hi Performance Products and the man that was to run it - really made me proud ......you got to love Mel Zikes, "Oshburg"
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    Question..............

    What does it say on the rear of the engine cowl in the picture below........I think the red said Twister II, but I'm not positive and, obviously , I have forgotten what it said under the red lettering. No big deal, just buggin' me that I can't remember.
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    Can't find the close up right now ... I think it says Twister II in red and 1400 under it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark75H
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    You sure .....that doesn't look like enough letters to say that and are you confirming the red is Twister II?......thanks

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    I was wrong about "Super Six" ... I think that was an earlier decal

    Pretty sure the red on your picture is the word twister II in an italic font, starting with a lower case "t" with a thin white outline around the red. Still thinking the text under twister II is "1400", might be 99ci
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    Here's what the later ones say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by largecar91
    Here's what the later ones say.
    Thank you, now I really want to know what the Twister II and the orginal C6 said!

    We ran the C6 for about a year and one-half (mid 71 through 72). I thought that we put a "1400 - Super Six - 99.9 cu.in" on the rear of those cowls. However, the photo of Mike Downards Molinari on the "Does anybody know what o/b this is" thread (page #7, post #20) doesn't seem to agree with my thinking. Mark 75H, would you look at the magazine article of that again and see if you can tell what it says....that would cover what we called the C6 and the media started calling the Twister II.

    The Twister II (Tillitson carbs) didn't debut until 73 and we did call it a Twister II. So the photo of Hering's Molinari does show the name Twister II in red, but I don't remember what the rest of it said. FYI....the photos of the Twister II posted on the very last entry of that same thread are of the first Twister II as they were to be built in their final form.....it was put together in our engine shop in Oshkosh .

    If none of you guys have a cowl or a photo that gives the info that I'm looking for, surely some of you OMC guys can tell me what those cowls said.....you certainly spent enough time looking at the rear of those engines.
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    I Am Pretty Sure My T2 C-6 Said 99 Cu In On The Back. I Lost The Original Cowling In Denver When I Blew It Over. The Motor Now Has An Aftermarket Plain Black Cowl(no Decals). The Only Good Pics I Have Of It Is From The Front And It Said Twister II. My C-6 Had The Old Style 10 Bolt Pattern On It And I Was Pretty Sure It Was Based On The 135 Block so I don't think it would have said 1400. Have The Mid Section That Came With It But Now It Has A T2x Powerhead On It.
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    My T-II has 1500 in that area, but I don't know when it was built.The 73 and up likely had 1500 and the 72 1400.

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    Didn't Willabee just say the first Twister 2 was a 73? ... meaning the 72's were factory team "C-6" motors without the Twister 2 name

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    He said the c6 was 71 and 72. Mine could have had the wrong cowl on it when I bought it but it was a c6 and it had blue decals but the "TWISTER II" was in red lettering.
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    My T-II cowl is like the one in Inline 6's picture, has the holes and washers for the cowl top mounts. The later T-IIX motors didn't have them. Also on the front of the cowl has the Power Trim decal. The T-II had blue decals with red and black stripe pieces at the corner. The T-IIX motors had just blue decals and didn't have the 99.9 CI on them but they all had the 1500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inline Six
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    Thank you, that clears up what the TII and TIIX had to say.......now I just have to rummage through my stuff and find a photo of the C6 and I'll have this straight.

    Largecar91.... Some of the names get a little confusing, let me try to clear this up a little. When the six carb stuff started, they were square and we called them "Morgan carbs" after the engineer that was responsible for them, Dr. Ted Morgan. They were on the 1400 block which was the first of the new dsh bolt patterns.....the 1350 shared a dsh bolt pattern with the 1250 which covered the BP's and the Twister and Twister I. While we raced the square carb engine in 71 and 72, we called them a C6. However, the media erroneously started to refer to this engine as a "Twister II", but it never had any TII decals on it. The actual Twister II came out in 73 and had the more familar round Tillotson carbs and as Inlines' photo shows, it used a 1500 block. I believe the T2X made it's debut in late 73 and was the 74 engine and as your photo shows, it used the 1500 block...same bolt pattern as the 1400.

    The photo on the left is the Morgan carbed C6 and the center and right are the Tillotson carbed Twister II ..........clear as mud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by willabee
    Thank you, that clears up what the TII and TIIX had to say.......now I just have to rummage through my stuff and find a photo of the C6 and I'll have this straight.

    Largecar91.... Some of the names get a little confusing, let me try to clear this up a little. When the six carb stuff started, they were square and we called them "Morgan carbs" after the engineer that was responsible for them, Dr. Ted Morgan. They were on the 1400 block which was the first of the new dsh bolt patterns.....the 1350 shared a dsh bolt pattern with the 1250 which covered the BP's and the Twister and Twister I. While we raced the square carb engine in 71 and 72, we called them a C6. However, the media erroneously started to refer to this engine as a "Twister II", but it never had any TII decals on it. The actual Twister II came out in 73 and had the more familar round Tillotson carbs and as Inlines' photo shows, it used a 1500 block. I believe the T2X made it's debut in late 73 and was the 74 engine and as your photo shows, it used the 1500 block...same bolt pattern as the 1400.

    The photo on the left is the Morgan carbed C6 1400 and the center and right are the Tillotson carbed Twister II 1500..........clear as mud?
    UH....... Willabee?

    I can't bring the photo up but it seems that YOU have a picture of the C-6 cowl...... you posted it in the last thread above.....on the 251 boat.... What does it say?


    Large Car:

    Based on my memory..and Willabees post above, I don't think you could buy a C-6..... they were strictly factory team motors....unless you bought it a few years later out the back door?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x
    UH....... Willabee?I can't bring the photo up but it seems that YOU have a picture of the C-6 cowl...... you posted it in the last thread above.....on the 251 boat.... What does it say?
    You bonehead.....if I could read what it said I wouldn't be askin' the question . On post #198 I asked Mark75H if he could locate that article about Downard's #251 that he got the photo from to see if he could read the cowl, havn't heard back. I think I have that article somewhere, just have to start looking.
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