electric catamaran boat to set world record

**Swabby** · 09-01-2022, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by David

This below reviews energy to make a car, and emissions from mining and oil production. The winner for cars is electric. Boats are not discussed

The winner is a car built to last regardless. Right now we have throw away cars and boats, after 1 or 2 decades how good is it still? If people want to be good to the environment they should buy to last not buy to be new. Do you really see an electric boat or car being "good" after 10, 20, 50 , 100 years old?

Of course building to last insures car and boat manufactures build themselves out of a business and there is no money in that . . .

**David - WI** · 09-01-2022, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow

So much of what is stated is not true. Google "why are gas prices high". Do you drive a Corvette WOT all the time? NO. But it nice to know it is capable of some real fun when you price the throttle. Same as the EV. Also Google "can the electric grid handle EV's". I say again EV are not for all people, just do not state an opinion you have as a fact like so many news shows lately.

California (highest EV ownership in US) is literally telling people NOT to charge their cars when they get home from work because the electrical grid cannot handle the load with only about 2% of the cars on their roads right now being electric.

Also, European electric power futures hit $0.99 per kwh this week due to their heavy push for "green energy" and high demand (including increased EV charging)... meaning when that happens here your $25 900-mile trip will cost $125 - which is more than a gasoline truck will cost once the "Joe Biden" gasoline war ends and gas goes back under $3/gallon.

Soon you will also pay some sort of "road tax" to offset the loss of gas tax revenue needed for road maintenance & construction... so make that $150 (add $0.025/mile) for that 900-mile trip.

If EV's made economic sense right now the government wouldn't be subsidizing manufactures with artificial "carbon credits" that they sell to offset losses, subsidizing owners with tax rebates and no road use tax, and subsidizing power companies with massive incentives for using "green energy" to meet the increased demand. If any of it made sense people would be doing it for the economic gain, not the tax incentives.

All of the cost of ownership calculations on based on assumptions that will no longer be true once EV's are widely adopted (energy cost, road tax, tax incentives, etc).

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...sis-warning-us
https://getjerry.com/insights/califo...t-place-to-own

**XstreamVking** · 09-01-2022, 10:15 AM

Do not argue with the four stroke and electric guys. They will tell us what to do and apparently we will have no choice in the matter. Hey, it’s for our own good so they say, and it doesn’t matter if you give them solid facts and figures. As long as they sell gas I will drive my hybrids that burn gas oil and rubber.

**BUZZIN' DOZEN** · 09-01-2022, 04:00 PM

Since we've strayed off topic, I'll add this, as long as you don't tow.......

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**Chaz** · 09-01-2022, 06:52 PM

Noli ,,,

Thanks for showing us what charging stations look like today. As well as "speculate" on what they "MIGHT" look like in ten years.
Pretty irresponsible to start killing off oil and gas industries on January 2021 on a .... "maybe" in 2032 .. Ehh

The tard left want's their cake and eat it too ... (makes perfect sense that this is Piglosi's son-in-law)

Lets see what the worlds leading authority on EV's thinks about this rush to be china powered ...

**noli** · 09-02-2022, 06:04 AM

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Chaz, apologies, I really dislike talking about politics on public boards

I do like watching Torrente break speed records on electric boats though

yeah baby!

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**CUDA** · 09-02-2022, 06:37 AM

https://youtu.be/PiwK6XdZDjM

**powerabout** · 09-02-2022, 06:49 AM

Electric cars make sense in cities especially pollution wise, they are made and powered out of town.
Assuming you have a garage to charge them but what happens to apt living?

**Swabby** · 09-02-2022, 07:12 AM

Electric cars can make sense for city commuting but then so does mass transit . . .

**noli** · 09-02-2022, 07:40 AM

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Elon Musk limited the creation of charging stations for Tesla cars to be made by non-Tesla companies

That has changed...he now allows the creation of Tesla charging stations by non-Tesla organizations and to allow a charging fee

This will open up charging stations to apartment complexes and the like..to cover the cost of building the charging station and possibly to allow a small profit to be made

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**powerabout** · 09-02-2022, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by noli

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Elon Musk limited the creation of charging stations for Tesla cars to be made by non-Tesla companies

That has changed...he now allows the creation of Tesla charging stations by non-Tesla organizations and to allow a charging fee

This will open up charging stations to apartment complexes and the like..to cover the cost of building the charging station and possibly to allow a small profit to be made

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problem with apt living is every carpark needs a charging point.

**noli** · 09-02-2022, 08:38 AM

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Some great news!

I just found out that Tesla has a Commercial Host plan for homes and business

Care to make a profit from charging Tesla vehicles from your home or business?

https://link.tesla.com/ls/click?upn=...h6da9kCg-3D-3D

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**JLanier571** · 09-02-2022, 10:19 AM

You guys are all stuck on Tesla, while ignoring that all the other major manufacturers, Dodge included who took the longest, have already committed to fully manufacturing EVs past a certain date. That's all that's needed for capitalism to do its thing. Electrify America and its competitors will build more DC Fast charging stations than we will know what to do with.

**Chaz** · 09-02-2022, 10:28 AM

When the 300r porkchop first came out, there were no less than a half a dozen threads about the same motor, saying the same thing.

Do we need two threads .. on electric outboards .. ???

American Ethanol cracks 200+ and barely a blip on the radar screen ...

But a state of the art .. 32' cat with a pair of thirty seconds at a time electric egg-beaters goes 104 and 107 .. and it's earth shattering news.

Garlets went 180 mph six - seven years ago in an electric dragster .. so it's not really new, news.

Six - seven years ago .. the push to electric .. only reason I can think of is the Obuma / Dimbiden years. So , like it or not .. it is political.

I'll throw a little religion in here too ..

The good book says .. there is nothing new under the sun.

Noli .. brother I get it. It fits the video games generation.
But be honest with me. Are you going to buy either a Tesla or an electric outboard powered boat , this year or in 2023 .. ????

Farmer gonna till 2500 acres on one charge up ... ?????

I like the idea of mass transit in the big cities. But we all know who runs those cities .. and how they have let mass transit become air conditioned / moving shelters for the dregs's of society ..

Chaz = grateful, I'm a country boy ...