When do you Gilde to a landing or deploy a Parachute?

**Lake X Kid** · 07-18-2022, 12:00 PM

**JPEROG** · 07-18-2022, 03:24 PM

Its a 100K decision to pull the chute on a Cirrus but all that have are still able to tell the story. There is no reason to die over a little bit of money. We lost friends that attempted a glide and caught wires with the landing gear. Glide ins are great if you are on a final but seldom do you have proper clearing within range of a power loss.

Joe

**CDave** · 07-18-2022, 06:53 PM

Back when I worked offshore one of the pilots told me the Bell 206L glide ratio is better than a lot of small aircraft.

**JPEROG** · 07-18-2022, 08:41 PM

One of the best glide patterns ever. These things were designed for the military with an unlimited budget. One of the nicest aircraft I have been able to use over the last few years thanks to great friend/client. He has a G5 but uses this and a King Air 350 for short trips. This thing makes property/site inspection trips much more enjoyable.

Joe

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**OnPad** · 07-18-2022, 10:21 PM

No glide capability, is the problem I see with all the new personal flying devices being designed, based off of the quadcopter or something similar with no wing, or autorotatation abilities. I guess these devices will need a parachute, although wouldn't be very effective at low altitude.

**Li'l Toy** · 07-20-2022, 02:20 PM

So guys help out a person who knows little about flying. I know some planes have chutes, I guess I saw videos where the plane was horizontal under the chute. Was the plane in the video coming down as designed, nose first, or was there a problem?

**Forkin' Crazy** · 07-21-2022, 12:21 PM

I have many hours in an old 152, Citabria, Scout, Cub, etc. Part of the training within the first 10 hours was to prepare for an emergency landing. Cut the power, trim for the best glide, fine a road, field, or other suitable OAL.

The plane is now junk. Yea, he walked away.... But it was a fail IMO. I was trained differently.

**JustDrew** · 07-21-2022, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy

I have many hours in an old 152, Citabria, Scout, Cub, etc. Part of the training within the first 10 hours was to prepare for an emergency landing. Cut the power, trim for the best glide, fine a road, field, or other suitable OAL.

The plane is now junk. Yea, he walked away.... But it was a fail IMO. I was trained differently.

Totally agree- there is nothing you shouldnt already be prepped for as a pilot- Loss of engine power is one of many-
Does this system save lives- or at least lesson the loss of ? of course . Is it the answer - ??? I guess if you value life more than the aircraft-from inexperience - then your good.

**Lake X Kid** · 07-24-2022, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Li'l Toy

So guys help out a person who knows little about flying. I know some planes have chutes, I guess I saw videos where the plane was horizontal under the chute. Was the plane in the video coming down as designed, nose first, or was there a problem?

The Center of Gravity is a big issue in flight. I remember flying into Memphis, and I had to take a (8 or 10 seater) to a smaller city airport. And the pilot asked me to seat in the back seat for CG balance.

Parachute placement-location in a small airplane is going to determine the CG descent angle. And passenger weight will shift the CG. That is why the R44 Robinson helicopter has a high/long mast to the rotors. So when passengers get inside (vs the pilot solo) the copter the bird's CG does not shift as much.

**Forkin' Crazy** · 07-24-2022, 11:36 PM

I think the tall rotor mast is for stability. The "string" you are hanging from is longer, therefore more stable.

They run the piss out of them shooting hogs in Texas. I would love to do that! Just not this....???

**OnPad** · 07-24-2022, 11:51 PM

I saw that a while back. I think I read somewhere in the comments that he only had one out of two magneto turned on, oops!!
Not that I'm pilot of anything bigger than rc, I believe a parachute system has to be located wherever you have the room to put it. On most small craft it would be located behind cg or cockpit.
There's another video floating around, of a stunt plane losing half his wing, then deploying a chute, saving his bacon.

**Lake X Kid** · 07-29-2022, 12:35 PM

The longer distant pendulum has a higher Moment of Inertia (less sensitivity to movement), than a shorter distance.

Adding passenger(s) weight on a helicopter has less sensitivity to CG movement, when the pendulum distance (rotor head pivot-point to cabin/helicopter’s center of gravity) is longer.

Therefore, the longer rotor mast (pendulum distance) on a R44 Robinson helicopter.