User Tag List

Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    31
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    8
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    24 Superboat CC 300R steering

    I’m in the process of rigging my boat and had a few questions about what steering setups people have been having success with. The motor is a 300R with a torquemaster lower and standard front tiller arm steering. I would’ve loved to get a wingplate HD motor but this was what was available and I also needed a TQMaster lower which is not available on a wingplate motor from my understanding. I bought the UFLEX silversteer UC130 steering kit which also came with a fixed 25cc hydraulic helm, the cylinder is extremely heavy duty compared to some others I have seen from seastar. The motor is mounted on a seastar extreme 12” hydraulic jackplate. My question is should I add Mercury Verado power steering to this setup? If so should I use the 40cc or 33cc helm? I really think I will need a tilt helm so if I just keep it standard hydraulic should I order the 33cc UFLEX silversteer tilt helm instead of the included 25cc fixed? I also have a seastar Sport Plus 40cc tilt helm laying around but it is only rated to 1000psi compared to the 1500 psi of the silversteer helm. I am concerned about the rigidity of the tiller arm steering compared to a wingplate setup and have heard adding power steering will stiffen everything up but not sure if this is true. This isn’t a race boat and should only do maybe 70-75mph. My prior closed deck 24 Superboat had a 300xs and marine machine wingplate setup and it was great. These boats tend to chine walk at high speed so I know how important steering feedback and countersteering is to be able to control these boats properly. Thank you for any advice in advance.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	C9727BFE-EB30-44DD-AC51-B709E5513516.jpeg 
Views:	35 
Size:	370.0 KB 
ID:	506636Click image for larger version. 

Name:	80692F0F-A5D1-42B7-A0AB-775BFF7B6E4F.jpg 
Views:	53 
Size:	414.0 KB 
ID:	506637
    Last edited by K-WELLS; 06-27-2022 at 09:58 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    New Smyrna Beach, FL./LOTO
    Posts
    6,637
    Thanks (Given)
    606
    Thanks (Received)
    918
    Likes (Given)
    1698
    Likes (Received)
    7129
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I have a front mount Sea Star tournament series and a sea star power assist on my tri-toon and it works great with no feedback. The motor is very solid but I could also see it being over reactive in a chine walk situation-we pulled the power assist out of my Allison for that very reason.

    Joe

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Princeton, NJ
    Posts
    4,032
    Thanks (Given)
    314
    Thanks (Received)
    232
    Likes (Given)
    2529
    Likes (Received)
    2097
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    .


    I'm gonna try the Optimus electric steering by Dometic






    .









    .
    Last edited by noli; 06-30-2022 at 07:08 PM.

  4. Likes sonicss33 liked this post
  5. #4
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    31
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    8
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That looks interesting Noli, any idea what PSI that puts out? I wound up going with Mercury Verado Gen C power steering pump and 40cc told helm going to the UFLEX silversteer cylinder, hopefully its solid.

  6. Likes noli liked this post
  7. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Princeton, NJ
    Posts
    4,032
    Thanks (Given)
    314
    Thanks (Received)
    232
    Likes (Given)
    2529
    Likes (Received)
    2097
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    .

    Hi K,

    There is no pressure measurable like the hydraulic system does

    The rod inside the actuator is being pushed/pulled electro-magnetically

    If you can visit a boat show soon, the Dometic engineers can better explain than me






    .

  8. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Location
    MI
    Posts
    230
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    15
    Likes (Given)
    2
    Likes (Received)
    144
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by noli View Post
    I'm gonna try the Optimus electric steering by Dometic
    Can you even buy that for a single? Can't find any info online other than promotional.

    I ended up with the Uflex UC130 and 2.0 Helm for fewer turns lock to lock.


    K-WELLS, personally I don't think you'll need power steering with that 1.5 helm you'll have 5.3 turns lock to lock and effort will be low.
    2023 Progression 22 w/ 2015 Mercury 300XS. 2018 Kawasaki Ultra LX. 1969 Hustler Wildcat. Gone but not forgotten: 1991 POS GW Invader. 1976 Donzi Hornet II. 1994 Formula 232 LS. 2001 Regal 2660. 1990 Formula 206 LS. 1992 Checkmate Pulse 186 w/ 2003 Mercury 200 EFI. Random assortment of jet skis.

  9. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    FLA
    Posts
    744
    Thanks (Given)
    7
    Thanks (Received)
    74
    Likes (Given)
    119
    Likes (Received)
    498
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Do not use electronic .I have been installing on some autonomous boats and it does not respond fast enough for a v bottom.Failure rate is more than hydraulic also.Give me a ring Noli i can go into more detail.
    24 Twister

  10. Thanks noli thanked for this post
    Likes noli liked this post
  11. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Princeton, NJ
    Posts
    4,032
    Thanks (Given)
    314
    Thanks (Received)
    232
    Likes (Given)
    2529
    Likes (Received)
    2097
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    .

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I will call you





    .
    Last edited by noli; 07-02-2022 at 02:32 AM.

  12. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    164
    Thanks (Given)
    7
    Thanks (Received)
    7
    Likes (Given)
    13
    Likes (Received)
    48
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_20220909_160656_01 (1).jpg 
Views:	23 
Size:	387.1 KB 
ID:	510042

  13. Likes noli liked this post

Similar Threads

  1. 300R steering?
    By smiklos@sunprint in forum General Boating Discussion
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 03-27-2022, 06:43 PM
  2. Twin 300r steering
    By lift2win in forum General Boating Discussion
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 10-03-2018, 04:13 PM
  3. Pitts 21' Superboat vs Hosers 21' Superboat
    By Dirk Pitt in forum General Boating Discussion
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 06-12-2011, 09:19 AM
  4. Live superboat race at 1pm on superboat.com turbines and all
    By 200VEGAS in forum General Boating Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-22-2011, 11:59 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Frank Mole Transport