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05-19-2023, 04:08 PM #16Member
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Getting Hull Off the Trailer - 01
Not pretty but I don't have a welder to make a metal plate with a tube. Shout out to tnelson for this setup. I was able to crank the back up off the trailer without much effort. I have a come along for the front with a sling. Should be able to flip it over soon. The pad went back to relatively straight where the roller was pressing up on it. Hopefully, that means everything is soft enough to rip out easily. Just have to get it in the garage now.
Also gives an idea of how far back the jack plate could be!- 1979 Checkmate Predictor 2.5 200 - Resto underway
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05-19-2023, 04:44 PM #17
Nice project. Keep it going. Checkmates are fun boats and a Trimate 3 is what got into this godawful hobby.
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05-20-2023, 04:24 PM #18Member
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Flipped Over - Cradle Time
Got the hull off the trailer and flipped over with surprisingly minimal cussing and frustration. Now it's time to build the cradle. The hull has little support as the 1 center stringer is all mush and falling out. the floor is mostly fallen out in the rear. A ski pole mount was bolted through the floor and held in with drywall anchors that someone put in. The hull is rough. There are stress cracks galore and some seriously sketchy-looking repairs on the back of the pad. Looks like a hole was torn practically clean thru the bottom... yikes. But this hull was cheap.. hopefully, I won't regret that. In the grand scheme of things, this is probably less than 1% of the overall project but this felt like a big win today flipping this solo. Got the pipe in the back in a great spot and the hull almost flipped itself over with minimal pulling. Had to use the come-along, a hoist, the pipe stand, and a floor jack but I got it down on some tires basically drama free. My rigging strap was definitely overkill and barely fit thru the bow eye. Might get a smaller one for next time.
Last edited by Check_Jo3; 05-20-2023 at 05:15 PM.
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05-20-2023, 05:30 PM #19
Nicely done!
Especially by yourself!I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
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05-21-2023, 05:27 AM #20Member
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How long should the flat area of the pad be?
Started measuring a few things to get the cradle going and the pad goes out about 32" before it starts to become a vee. Should the flat area be longer?
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05-26-2023, 09:20 PM #21Junior Member
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Very cool, you’re giving me some ideas, thanks!!
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05-28-2023, 10:06 AM #22
Looks like a great project! a 32" pad sounds about right.
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05-30-2023, 11:10 AM #23Member
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Lots of Measuring Ahead
Got going on the cradle. My wife and I just had our 2nd child last week so that will slow things down a bit.. but I am on paternity leave so maybe not? I squeeze out to the garage when its naptime and try and make any progress I can . Picked up (6) pieces of 3/4" ply wood some 2x6 and 2x4 for support. (~$330). Again, thanks to tnelson for the inspiration on this cradle technique. I've got plenty of measuring to do.. 80-couple measurements (every 1/2") from the center of the pad out to the side. I'll mirror that over and then repeat for each of the bulk heads. Originally thought to space them 16" but am thinking about spreading them a bit farther out to get more support. Any progress is good progress right now!
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05-31-2023, 04:10 PM #24Member
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Bit of a setback today. After a bunch of time measuring the first bulkhead of the cradle did not turn out with the accuracy that I expected. 100% on me as this method has proven to be successful with others before. I mirrored one side onto the other which made things worse but there are just too many gaps. May have to scrap this one and try again. Starting to think that for me a better idea may have been to make a 'tub' of sorts an then use structural foam to make a cradle as it rising would conform to the bottom. One cool thing that turned up is that this hull has a different deadrise between the strakes.
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05-31-2023, 07:17 PM #25
On your jig, or cradle, build it straight, level, square and true.
Bolt it to the floor of your shop/garage then strap your hull to it.
Keep in mind, your hull probably won’t like it.
Rotted stringers and setting on an out of align trailer for the last 20 yrs??
I did a Hydrostream yrs ago that one side of the hull hoverd 2” above on starboard side even though port side sat flat on the jig.
I through some pixie dust over my shoulder and strapped it down!
Turned out to be an amazing boat when done!
Sorry for lack of follow up/support on your project but you have stumbled on what was once the premier hot rod OB website of the world but has desolved into a cesspool of political crap, same as many other gear head websites.Last edited by Instigator; 05-31-2023 at 07:20 PM.
I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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Thanks for thr reply! Yea tonight was one of those "better just walk away for the day and try again with a new plan tomorrow". Got one of those contour tools coming that should help with more accurate profiling of the strakes and what not.
I can't speak to how the site used to be.. I've always been kinda tire kicker on here just reading away for years and years. But hopefully we can put some of that other stuff aside and just focus on going fast!- 1979 Checkmate Predictor 2.5 200 - Resto underway
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05-31-2023, 07:49 PM #27
Don’t reinvent the mouse trap.
Again, to go fast, make it straight and square.
The strakes, edges, angles etc, May no match.
Move on.
Make it strong, safe and bolt on a motor!I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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06-05-2023, 06:01 PM #28Member
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Cradle Work
Slow and steady progress. My mess up (I was able to salvage most of the wood for different pieces thankfully) has made me have to rethink how to go about this. What I came up with is to break down the bottom into smaller, more manageable sections. The sections will overlap on the strakes. Then the sections will go together. This has also really given me more of an understanding of what is going on with the running surface. Flat pad.. 20 deg hull section.. then the first stake actually is not flat (I was surprised) its more like 2 degrees.. second hull section is 17 deg.. etc. pretty cool to figure out. Maybe it'll help me design my own boat one day . I'll keep plugging along here in between naps from not sleeping at night with the new baby lol.. Also still waiting on my aluminum plate for the pad support.. 10-15 day lead time.. ugh
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06-25-2023, 02:22 AM #29
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06-30-2023, 03:25 PM #30Member
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Definitely slow not quite steady
Some cradle progress. Hull is not mirrored quite right from the factory one side strake is wider than the other side. I think I will be able to correct it some later on. I try to do a little whenever I get a chance. I have to finish up the pieces for the bottom up towards the bow, then the pieces that will keep the sides from flaring out when the top comes off.
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