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01-14-2022, 05:04 AM #16
I guess I like walking on top of the fence instead of standing on either side. Doesn't make a difference to me. I like you all. If it wasn't for all of your guys knowledge my boating experience would be much different.
Thanks for putting up with me. Don't feel bad, sometimes I can't figure myself.
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01-14-2022, 08:54 AM #17Bud Conner "Heathen" "Defending Our Constitution"
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01-14-2022, 09:28 AM #18
Way to go Will, you got yourself in trouble again!
I can't feel, but partially responsible.
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01-15-2022, 12:05 AM #19
Once apon a time, some collage boys that lacked the aptitude to become brain surgeons or lawyers settled into becoming engineers. Since they were so much smarted than most everyone else, and had a desire to feel relevant (pertinet sentire cupio) they skipped the early lessons of "lefty loosey ~ righty tighty" and went straight into putting their description of mathematical equations into latin terms like the medical and legal fields do. So not only did they hack the math, but they also butchered the English language as well.
Getting back to basics ...
The cornerstone, or constant is the ability to lift an object one foot over a period of time. The time changes, not the distance. (unless you say it in latin)
Therefore ..
Now, if you are torquing a bolt ... even if you have an 18" long torque wrench, it is calibrated the constant of "one foot". So you see why "foot" always comes first, then the amount of resistance measured in pounds, or for smaller fasteners , "inch" followed by pounds.
Chaz = wunderin, why they drop their own rule and call it "pounds of inch torque". It sounds no dumber than "pounds of foot torque"
Chaz = thinkin, Ifin ya work on the rail-road and you use a 36" torque wrench, why wouldn't ya become woke enough to work in "pounds of yard torque" ???
Unless you ..
Went to school with the, smartards, work for Uncle Sugar, Metric Motown, trained by a globalized American corp. that caved to Euro-Asian markets .. or forgot what the math and shop teachers said in Jr. High .. then by all means .. be my guest and sound as lost as last years Easter eggs ...
P/S ..
Thank you Uncle BBQ, we had a good time. Missed you though .. would have loved to have some of your dry rub for the Manatee steaks, and pickled Okra to give em that Carolina flair ..
BTW .. if ya get where ya need to warm your bones .. I-95 south ..
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01-15-2022, 12:12 AM #20Screaming And Flying!
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the sad part is Yam used metric rated engines to beat imperial OMC and Merc, they didnt see it coming.....
That gave them 2 feet in the door and gained form that.
( Propshaft rated is what I am referring to)
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01-15-2022, 06:31 AM #21
Its like comparing which Came first the Chicken or the Egg? Same with LB Ft. Which moves first the Pound or the Foot? Therefore in HP/Torque calculations one has to move the LB first before you achieve moving a Ft I.E. Lb/Ft. Now if one were walking you have to lift the Foot before you Pound it. I.E. Ft/Lb. In a sentence: Chaz lifted his foot in anger to Pound it because he was trying to make a point.
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01-16-2022, 01:18 AM #22
Dayum .. that made me forget what the subject was ...
Did ya cook that usin the BTU/hour/thermal unit's/distance from heat source/pound formula ta make that look so goooooddd ???
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01-16-2022, 01:44 AM #23Screaming And Flying!
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German LBft...... Good an' tight........
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01-16-2022, 01:59 AM #24
Good to hear from ya Dave. I never cared for using a torque wrench. The last merc I worked on the rod bolt rattled out. Probably installed with a newton stick in mexico. I do find a pressure gauge useful, keeps the explosions to a minimum. In that case I prefer psi over bar.
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01-16-2022, 04:46 AM #25Screaming And Flying!
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01-16-2022, 11:41 PM #26
I had me an exact one of these , when I was a kid ... I forget what it was calibrated in ... besides, bent needle ..
Dave .. aint this your first torque wrench ... ???
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01-16-2022, 11:56 PM #27
It's even labeled foot lbs. Just like my harbor freight version, but probably more accurate.
Maybe you guys are on to something.
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01-17-2022, 04:54 AM #28
Maybe this will explain LB/FT vs FT/Lb completely so everyone can truly comprehend the two
The foot-pound (also and originally known as foot-pound force) is a traditional English unit of work. It is equal to the work done by one pound of force acting through a distance of one foot. For example, when James Watt determined that a horse could lift 550 lbs. at a rate of one foot per second, he declared it one horsepower. The international equivalent of the foot-pound is the Joule (J).
The pound-foot (also and originally known as pound-force foot) is a traditional English unit of torque. The angular equivalent of linear force, torque is the tendency of a force to produce a rotation. Torque is the product of the force and the distance from the center of rotation to the point where the force is applied. For example, if a one-pound force is exerted on a wrench with an effective length of one foot, one pound-foot of torque is applied to the fastener. The international equivalent of the pound-foot is, naturally enough, the Newton meter (Nm).
As I mentioned in Post#10. "somehow foot-pounds became common verbiage" . So If one is referring to a Force of Work its FT/Lb. If one is referring to a Force of Torque its LB/Ft.
So In Closing!!! The original posters question was clearly referring to Torque not Work!! Therefore the following applies to his question.
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01-17-2022, 10:15 AM #29
Please read post #2 all was covered there, including verbiage and scale.
One could always click the link in post #2 This would save reading 26 more post's to circle back to post #2.
Be sure to read the comments at the end of the link ...
That dry rub .. just what's in that stuff ...
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01-17-2022, 05:00 PM #30Screaming And Flying!
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