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    The basic key to this hobby is accessibility. Starting at 18 years old, I had my own boats and I had loans on them. Today you can't get insurance to get the loan to get the boat (STV as an example). I had four of them before I turned 25 years old and all were financed with a couple hundred dollar payment attached. This made it accessible for me, the boats were the fastest thing out there and new to market (we had 6 of them in our group and had an absolute blast together). I still have the passion for it but I am into the bigger stuff now more then the small. I also purchased houses in the hot bed areas of performance boat activity. If you think performance boating has dried up, (visit LOTO and see for yourself all of the events and activity)-it will confirm that you are not alone in being passionate about performance boating and they welcome it.

    If you want to see young guys get interested in what we like, take them for a ride. Everyone of us remembers our first fast boat ride as if it were yesterday.... This along with helping younger guys get into a boat and or fix one up is now our duty and I continue to strive for it.

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    I agree, coming up from a very poor family we were only able to afford boats that were not in the best shape, so everything always required a lot of work, dad took out a16k loan to buy the allison with, took him 6 or 7 years to actually pay it off, whenever we got the 225 vin. Motor worked up to 7200rpm, which was 5 years after that, I never seen my dad smile so much, after my first ride, I washooked and always looking forward to the next trip
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    They call it the American dream, to bad you have to be asleep to believe it. - George Carlin

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    Take young people for a ride! Damn straight thats solid advice. You have to light the fuse of desire somehow.

    A quick thought regarding some of the marina/dockside talks I've had with the odd Karen about "loud polluting boat" or some judgy crap like that. To my quick polite reply of how irts clear good taste isn't for everyone and my old boat has long paid its carbon price and the cleanest greenest thing any of us can do is re-use and recycle of which Im doing both and I casually remind these people that I can run my boat all year long for my entire life for less carbon then it took to build their new giga toon and motor combo so while I can tolerate their contributions to polluting the world I certainly would appreciate their respect towards my green approach of running this awesome hydrostream hull which even more green is also extremely efficient through the water burning less gas to travel the same distance as almost any other hull ever built.

    Watch their faces....
    Hydrostream dreamin

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    With the people who always post on this site, it should die a painfull death. I see no reason to contribute anything to this site anymore. Sorry.
    Larry Gempp Jr.

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    Current Ride - 2024 22 Liberator - 450R


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Jr. View Post
    With the people who always post on this site, it should die a painfull death. I see no reason to contribute anything to this site anymore. Sorry.
    Sorry to hear Larry.
    Wriggleys gum makes me think of boating, "Double your engines, Double your fun"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Jr. View Post
    With the people who always post on this site, it should die a painfull death. I see no reason to contribute anything to this site anymore. Sorry.
    You just did! haha. Looks like you had a blast on the river run last week. I got to get down there for that in 2022.

    Anyway, it has change a lot since I found S&F and it will change a lot in the future. I just hope it says around as it is a great place to find info and pass time.
    1973 Viper - sold
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    My first 3 boats cost.....$50...10....100.......young kid..... now no one wants to do the work..... buy a $6500 jetski......and thats it. Back then the big boat was a 21 foot ckmate....Rich guys had cabincrusers. Times change.... enjoy the moment.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Jr. View Post
    With the people who always post on this site, it should die a painfull death. I see no reason to contribute anything to this site anymore. Sorry.
    Don't fall for the B.S. Larry. I call them out on it and those guys aren't boaters anyway. Ask E.J. or Cuda to send you pictures of the boat they were in last and it might be a polaroid. For you its pretty much every week possible and for me usually twice or three times. I was on the water at LOTO Saturday and here today. Keep contributing with your friends and don't get derailed by liberal jokers. Boating, snowmobiling, and cars are where you met your friends and they are still here.

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    I'm not as fast as I once was.... but I'm as fast once as I ever was

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    Im still building things as long as I can!!! Man your old!!

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    Eventually the two-stroke stuff will be outlawed everywhere. Today it seems like everyone is into big boats turning big numbers and you can have a cup of coffee in the time it takes to get there. Now there’s more people on the water so you need a bigger boat so you don’t get beat to death. Maybe someday they will come out with a light weight four stroke that can turn some RPM. The 2.5 260, drag motor, 280 are the simplest motors I have ever worked on. The parts have always been pretty pricey.

    In the late 60s early 70s my street hot rod would run mid 12s and get horrible gas mileage, 19 cents to 22 cents a gallon. My wife’s modern mustang will run mid 12s stock with all types of technology.

    You know you are old when a doctor walks into the room and he is a kid. I have many more years behind me than I do in front of me. I’m thinking the new technology will catch up on boats just like it has excelled with new automobiles. One day the new technology motors will smoke what our drag motors will do on a lightweight hull. Not sure if I’ll be around to see it.
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    I’m still thrashing too dude.

    Heres the latest hobby.
    74’ MGB.

    Limited on power so we cut weight and parasitic losses best we can, electric fan, header, alum radiator.
    Etc.

    Point/question is, when we punch out, who comes in behind us?

    At this point I’ll bet fairly heavy, it’s no one.



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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 282 View Post
    MG very cool, if we are off the boat topic I have an 81 Trans Am with a small block crate motor, super clean, 4 speed just rebuilt and did the interior all winter in the garage. Way to many plastic parts have to be super careful. Last weekend put some ladder bars..that’s for looks only. Local show a few weeks ago and I hate crooked pics! Buddy has a lift in his garage to tinker on stuff with. As a kid I did l a lot of resto stuff with an uncle of mine. Today it is cheaper to buy already done and just make improvements on. The centerline wheels are straight from 1980 and are new old stock never mounted on a car just found them on Craigslist a few months ago.
    looks really nice , my grandma had a navy blue 79 with the split sunroof that SHE bought new …..it had 27,000 orig miles when my parents got it in the early 2000’s , they sold it to collector , my grandma picked us kids up from school and she went to grocery store with it and that was it ,never went over 45 mph or had even been on a highway ……..I asked grandma why she bought it, she said it looked cool !!
    2003 mirage ski racer with e-tec power

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    See you one, raise you one.

    ’02, last yr, LS-6/ZO-6 block, stroker crank, CNC heads, 4:10 gears w/a six speed stick.

    12.80’s through the mufflers on street tires, 11.70’s on slicks.

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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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