Another mass shooting, what is the solution?

[JBS]

Unfortunately there was another mass shooting in Indianapolis today. What are your thoughts on a solution to this epidemic?

[SS Minnow]

Likely we will never reach a solution because not enough people actually want one. One side is looking to disarm the population and they try to use these mass shootings to make that happen. In many cases the solutions they propose would have done nothing to prevent any of the shootings we have seen. Take the Parkland FL shooting at the school a few years back. People were telling the police that he was going to do what he did. He posted on social media that he was going to do what he did. What has changed since then?

There have always been mass shootings in the US. Some years seen more then others. The reason you hear so much about them now is to further the issue of gun control. The past few years by far were the worst, but there was no way that the president and congress were going to pass more laws, so the media was rather quiet about what was happening. Now that there is a possibility of more gun control, the media hammers away at any incident until the next one occurs.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ngs-in-the-us/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

Forget about the mass shootings for a minute and look at all the people shot and killed in Chicago alone. To date there have been 48 people killed in mass shootings across the country. In Chicago there have been 164 people shot and killed in the same time period. There are no gun stores in Chicago and in IL you are required to have a Firearms Owner IDentification card to buy guns and ammo, legally.

http://heyjackass.com/

[rock]

Toughest laws yielding poorest results. Only in Illinois. Prisons overflowing and I think there is a former governor in each.

Rock

[mr fun]

personally, I don't have the patientce for chapter long answers to a question. the dude was 19 and and ex employee there who was stopped a year ago with a firearm in the same area ,,, similar intent ? maby , probably. enforcement's hands are tied, people need to speak up . fun out

[CUDA]

Region	Rate	Homicides
Americas	16.3	157,000
Africa	12.5	135,000
World	6.2	437,000
Europe	3.0	22,000
Oceania	3.0	1,100
Asia	2.9	122,000

[SS Minnow]

Region	Rate	Homicides
Americas	16.3	157,000
Africa	12.5	135,000
World	6.2	437,000
Europe	3.0	22,000
Oceania	3.0	1,100
Asia	2.9	122,000

And do tell why that might be???????

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/06/26...ridden-cities/

https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...cities_do.html

And what happens to our murder rate if we do not include cities run by the rats?

http://memepoliceman.com/what-is-the...thout-chicago/

Those pesky damn facts just biting you in the ass again, huh?


And by regions your chart states Americas. What exactly does that include?

You are aware that America includes two separate continents with how many countries, right?

[David - WI]

Start with the big problems and work our way down?

[CDave]

The ONLY thing that is going to reduce these incidents is for our society to get back to strong moral standards. We as a society cannot keep loose morals and expect people to act with moral behavior.

As long as society keeps up with this identity politics nonsense these shootings will continue. Nothing politicians or activists do that doesn't push strong morals will make things better. You can take that to the bank.


EDIT: If laws are going to reduce gun violence shouldn't the 300+ gun laws we have in this country have stopped all gun violence? Do you really think more gun laws are going to make any difference?
Murder is illegal and has been for hundreds of years, yet people still murder.

[mragu]

Schools, video games, breakdown of family unit.

[powerabout]

The ONLY thing that is going to reduce these incidents is for our society to get back to strong moral standards. We as a society cannot keep loose morals and expect people to act with moral behavior.

As long as society keeps up with this identity politics nonsense these shootings will continue. Nothing politicians or activists do that doesn't push strong morals will make things better. You can take that to the bank.


EDIT: If laws are going to reduce gun violence shouldn't the 300+ gun laws we have in this country have stopped all gun violence? Do you really think more gun laws are going to make any difference?
Murder is illegal and has been for hundreds of years, yet people still murder.

Unfortunately the history of the USA is it went from the wild west to decadence, not a history that any others countries had.
Some of the carry over like small town sheriff rules the roost and its a political stepping stone is part of the issue along with slaves and the north south divide.
The gun culture has never changed.

[SS Minnow]

Unfortunately the history of the USA is it went from the wild west to decadence, not a history that any others countries had.
Some of the carry over like small town sheriff rules the roost and its a political stepping stone is part of the issue along with slaves and the north south divide.
The gun culture has never changed.

You need to go back and read some history books and stop relying on movies for your history lessons. The wild west was over by the early 1900's. Any sort of decadence for the average person that was willing to work did not come about until well after WW2, into the 1950's. And the gun culture in the USA has changed 180 degrees from part of everyday life to present day standards of being astigmatism.

This is why I do not like talking US politics with foreigners. Rarely do they know what they are talking about, but it does not stop them from talking.

[powerabout]

You need to go back and read some history books and stop relying on movies for your history lessons. The wild west was over by the early 1900's. Any sort of decadence for the average person that was willing to work did not come about until well after WW2, into the 1950's. And the gun culture in the USA has changed 180 degrees from part of everyday life to present day standards of being astigmatism.

This is why I do not like talking US politics with foreigners. Rarely do they know what they are talking about, but it does not stop them from talking.

The USA has a unique history and it all connects to the present day, for good and bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaring_Twenties
Is there any other country on the planet that has a constitution that says you can have a gun, hence you have lots.
Its in your constitution due to the reality of those times and how the USA was formed.
Post WWII was prosperity not decadence.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state

[CDave]

Unfortunately the history of the USA is it went from the wild west to decadence, not a history that any others countries had.
Some of the carry over like small town sheriff rules the roost and its a political stepping stone is part of the issue along with slaves and the north south divide.
The gun culture has never changed.

That isn't an honest appraisal of the United States. In the United States, you have a bigger chance of dying in an auto accident than being shot by a law-abiding citizen if you are not breaking the law.

[SS Minnow]

That isn't an honest appraisal of the United States. In the United States, you have a bigger chance of dying in an auto accident than being shot by a law-abiding citizen if you are not breaking the law.

This is why I prefer to not talk about politics with foreigners. He is quoting a wiki article about the "roaring 20's" to make a point. Again, like I stated, he needs to read an actual history book and not something that anybody can write and it is not necessarily accurate. The 1920's were good for some but not for all. Not even for most. Heck, in the 1920's the majority of homes did not even have indoor plumbing. Talk about living large.

[SS Minnow]

Oh and by the way, these figures are straight from CDC stats. You know, that agency that everyone is taking their word for it and wearing the your face diapers. Listen to them about firearms too, why don't ya??