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01-04-2021, 09:59 PM #91Screaming And Flying!
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They sound like there spinning......10,000 is the #RPM I ran in that class as a starter class.... most started as A or B stock.... Me.....FRR.....Just a fluke of life....Just because the guy that sold me the MK 75H......was impreesed with how it ran in the bay....My boat.....1964 14 DeSilva..... was a log.....funn for bay use but at the races .... slow. Then......I used a KG9 gear set .... in the log.......Speed improved......but gear cases.... broke....Times were funn back then.......JMO....
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01-04-2021, 10:05 PM #92Screaming And Flying!
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01-05-2021, 08:12 AM #93
Very cool dude!
Had no idea you were an old kneel down guy.
I started w/the small classes (as you mentioned) in ‘1976 as a self funded junior in high school.
Designed and built most of my boats and motors and that was as intriguing to me as winning.
But that reality mandated......, owning junk cars/tow vehicles, crap apartments, crap propellers, crap jobs (missing work to race) but wouldn’t change a thing.
One of my first apartments I put plywood over the carpeted floor in the dining area and converted it to a motor shop.
Normally had two or three MK15/20’s on stands and parts, props, tool boxes etc.
Still remember the maintenance man making a surprise visit and freaking out when he saw it!
Built an ASH in the basement of another.
Became an education on becoming an adult, learning to travel, budgeting, partying (��) etc.
IMO, that was the best era of kneel downs.
What started as the heavy (gorgeous) Desilva runabouts, gorgeous but heavy cab over hydro’s that (as you also said) were built as lake (rough water) boats, noisy Mercs w/open pipes that were slower than their Stock cousins, to lightweight picklefork hydros, Bezoat and Staron runabouts and Motors that ran as good as they sounded!
When I started, almost all the Stock records were faster than the Mod records.
And the Alky, modded Merc lake motors became purpose designed/built Pro Koenig race motors.
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I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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01-05-2021, 10:26 AM #94Screaming And Flying!
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That is not my looper......Thats Bill Fails.......I ran a Mk78 with out pipes........but closed exhaust tricks...... HeeHee Gator... I was a spectator.....in NJ .... lake hopikotten.. Sp.......when I first saw a KR CRR DeSilva run.......all I can say is Wow..... the boat flew........ Bad thing is..... back then..... only had a cheep camara and history is limited. As to not High jack this thread..... I will post some Pixs of my old Dazz in a old Dave S. thread
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01-05-2021, 12:32 PM #956000 RPM
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Cool story Gary. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the reply back on that Dave.
You two must have had a blast with that stuff
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01-05-2021, 05:17 PM #96New Member
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I'm, still running one today... 1981 Two Thirsty Five, hanging on its originally mated 1981 Checkmate 20' Entertainer, manual jack plate with a 5" setback and up 4" currently... Its been rebuilt, Bored .030 over with Wiseco pistons, switched to a set of 86-91 XP/GT175 136/137 heads and had them cut .020, 1 3/8 carbs modified and jetted, Boyesen reeds... Have another powerhead rebuilt and waiting that's .040 over with the big bore 638/639 heads cut .020 waiting its turn, same 1 3/8 carbs, Boyesen reeds Wiseco pistons etc... With the current power head it runs 71.2 gps just me 1/4 tank of fuel...
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01-05-2021, 05:19 PM #97Screaming And Flying!
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I have a boat.... just like tis ...hanging in my shop DeSilva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFAnkVhFCrQ
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01-05-2021, 05:37 PM #98Member
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I have a small collection of older small race boats and 50's merc race engines. Early 70's D Class Bezoat in the back with 55H, early 60's A/J Class Speedliner with KG7 and H foot, and early 70's Austin B Class utility with 20H popper. Stock 20H by back wall. Always loved this old stuff that I grew up with.
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01-05-2021, 05:45 PM #99Screaming And Flying!
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nice collection.......I wish my shop was so clean......
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01-05-2021, 06:17 PM #100I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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01-05-2021, 06:24 PM #1016000 RPM
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01-05-2021, 06:35 PM #102Screaming And Flying!
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Jghall nice clean boat
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01-05-2021, 06:41 PM #103
I raced 20H toilet bowls and kept three when I quit.
Plan was to sell one for seed money to support the design/build of a 12’ - 14’ tunnel boat for twin 20 H’s but life changed my mind.
I remember selling a bunch of it to a guy that showed up wearing MK55 ear rings ��
I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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01-05-2021, 07:03 PM #104Member
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01-05-2021, 07:20 PM #105New Member
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Actually she runs rock solid at that speed, it has one of Checkmates older performance pad hulls, with a step about 2/3 back, it gets up on the pad and sits, set up really well... Same hull as the Enchanter, just open bow... Checkmate's are a tad on the heavy side too
which helps too.. hoping for 75, lol...
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