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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull View Post
    I think that since they killed Mod-VP I have not even said the words APBA.
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    Agree 100%. After that and all the rule changes every year, I said efm

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    In other words, Merc Racing sees that there is $$$ to be spent overseas but not in the states, which means the APBA was by-passed. ......when the 2 stroke parts supply dries up, so will the APBA membership. The Europeans kept on going with 4 strokes and made it work. The USA people did not.
    I hope them the best.Lots of interest and deep pockets. Just don't see it happening over here.All the previous post confirms this.

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    the only plus I can see is that they are still have a J class to kids to race, if you don't get kids involved, there is a time limit to your racing. I've had drag racers complain that the number of boats keep going down every year, but then do nothing to bring younger people into the sport. In other sports, I've had guys give me their old equipment to help draw me into racing with them. In boat, as was pointed out, they ether hog their old stuff, or try to screw someone with junk. No saying that is right or wrong, but your not going to bring in new racers that way.

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    J class racing could continue without the APBA for a long time, if families wanted to put the effort into it. Getting somebody else's junk seems to be a common problem in any motorsport. I got tired of being depended on to make a class (number of boats) so somebody else could get the blue ribbon. Staying home got to be the practical alternative to working my tail off only to get beaten every weekend. When it boils down to hard work all the time its no longer fun or a hobby.

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    I was on the opposite side of that to a degree. I was in a different sport, got lots of help to get me into the sport, but then I started to look fast. So ended all the help and anyone offering me any parts at any cost. And then they wanted to know why I wouldn't show up to race. I get it, but then I don't What is the point of being the best or fastest if your racing all alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    In other words, Merc Racing sees that there is $$$ to be spent overseas but not in the states, which means the APBA was by-passed. ......when the 2 stroke parts supply dries up, so will the APBA membership. The Europeans kept on going with 4 strokes and made it work. The USA people did not.
    In Europe they stick to the UIM party line which is the Merc party line, the day after an engine is no longer sold the class stops racing.
    Huge amount of old race stuff in sheds in Europe.

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    Blue Ribbon Solo Trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Poky View Post
    I was on the opposite side of that to a degree. I was in a different sport, got lots of help to get me into the sport, but then I started to look fast. So ended all the help and anyone offering me any parts at any cost. And then they wanted to know why I wouldn't show up to race. I get it, but then I don't What is the point of being the best or fastest if your racing all alone?
    I totally agree...........the blue ribbon winners found themselves registering for races by themselves in the end. These same blue ribbon drivers were also the ones who failed to nominate the guys who signed up to make a class, (got beaten or traveled to races they didn't want to attend) in the local racing club for at least a "sportsmans" award? I had no regrets in quitting 25 years ago.
    Last edited by WaterZebra; 08-15-2021 at 10:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBS View Post
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    Agree 100%. After that and all the rule changes every year, I said efm
    Merc helped by making a purpose built engine to kill the class

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    Its my understanding that the F1 boat are going to all new boats because of the weight difference of a four stroke. So if that doesn't kill the APBA, i don't know what will. OMC is gone, Mercury 2.5 will be gone as soon as the last crank is sold. We are all going to be vintage race soon no matter what, unless you can afford a new hull

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    poor corporate decisions create the aftermarket market and hence the industry that goes with it.

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    Other Lethal Factors

    Quote Originally Posted by Poky View Post
    Its my understanding that the F1 boat are going to all new boats because of the weight difference of a four stroke. So if that doesn't kill the APBA, i don't know what will. OMC is gone, Mercury 2.5 will be gone as soon as the last crank is sold. We are all going to be vintage race soon no matter what, unless you can afford a new hull
    2 inboard drivers have been killed this year. City of Long Beach has said there will be no more events held there. Vintage won't last unless you are willing to idle around in parade laps. Older stuff could still be used if you want to lug around ballast to make minimum weight. Mercury racing won't support the old SSM (#4, #6) lower units either. The 4 stroke case is completely different.
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    I'm not a historian, but didn't Long Beach already do that once? Too dangerous, too loud, not enough money to be made. My dad race back in the 50's in Wisconsin. (knee down boats) I've been amazed at the places he said they used to race at. very different times. Each time I see a drag race the track get shorter. 1/4 mile, 1000 feet, 800 feet. that path also only has one ending. and they wonder where illegal racing come from.

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