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    Quote Originally Posted by WavetoWave View Post
    The 250R is advertised as 520 Lbs, without the cowl, no oil.
    If you ask some of the old guys on this board who have a lot of water miles under there belts, they will tell you that Mercury Marine has routinely lied about the actual weight of there OB motors for many years.

    Getting an accurate weight of the 300XS was as impossible as getting true 21' SOB top speeds until Wildman hung one from a digital scale for 100% truth.

    If Mercury Racing offered a "225R" based on the V6 that would be great. A 225 Pro XS for a few grand less, with the up charge "option" of a Sporty, might politically be an easier step in the right direction. Either way, the motor looks like it would weigh more than what mother Merc tells the folks buying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    Randy time to put the R up on the digital fish scale and get a true weight on that bad boy.
    Quote Originally Posted by WILDMAN View Post
    I did. 561 lbs
    V8 300R at 561 pounds. The real deal once again from Wildman. I'm sure Merc could get the V6 225 to 500 lbs with a tweak or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    V8 300R at 561 pounds. The real deal once again from Wildman. I'm sure Merc could get the V6 225 to 500 lbs with a tweak or two.
    I assume that’s turn key motor weight all fluids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    100% agree. The thing that is surprising is how easy they could revive the under 20' segment with just a few changes to there V6 product line.

    There are a lot of folks out there with $20k in the pocket who are running out of 2.5 parts IMO.
    they will end up carby OMC..lol big power plenty of parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    I often have a hard time understanding why you post things that add nothing to the topic at hand.
    lack of HP parts for a 2.5 300+ hp Merc?
    you dont need any HP parts to get 300+ from an old carby OMC, just some grinding
    and they are lighter than todays 300


    What are the some of long loved race classes and the new growing ones..
    SST45 - fishing engine
    Texas F1, ( now in Australia) carby FF block - fishing engine
    You just make the rules to suit the engine/power/cost and reliability you want.
    why do these classes exist, maybe the factories cant control you racing a fishing engine as there are millions of them out there?
    just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risco View Post
    I assume that’s turn key motor weight all fluids?
    Yes, that is correct. 300R V8 is 561lbs. No one has put the V6 225 up on the digital scale yet but I do not doubt the 520 lbs that was posted earlier.

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    Now I am wondering what the cowl on the 2020 4 stroke Fishing V6 225 weighs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WavetoWave View Post
    I do believe it is possible Racing will do something with the V6, they are tight lipped but it's very likely. They make a niche market 15" 60R and they sold it out in no time, so they can easily do a 200/225 V6 with parts they already have.

    Here's the thing, the 175 ProXS is a good value. You can take a 225 V6 and add the Racing lower mounts: part# 8M0149561 (the V6 and V8 share many parts). And you can swap out the V8 TM case, if you feel you need the 1.75 gears, and you have a pretty decent setup. But it would make way more sense for Racing to just offer the turnkey version with optional SM.

    I'd actually like to see the 250R as a V6, just makes more sense. I might have some numbers for a 225 V6 with the TM that's being tested soon.
    W2W are you sure you can do that to a 175 ProXS? If the parts worked, it would still be a shame to void the long warranty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    W2W are you sure you can do that to a 175 ProXS? If the parts worked, it would still be a shame to void the long warranty
    Yes, the V6 shares the same lower mounts as the regular and ProXS V8 four stroke, Racing uses solid lowers. You can buy a CPO one with a one year warranty for a discount. Motor mounts won't hurt the warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanMarine View Post
    apparently those motors are weighed by mercury for there advertisement weight without cowls, fluids or gear cases. A well know boat manufacturer weighed the motors on gave me that info. I did not personally weigh these motors.
    You're almost correct. They include the gearcase while weighing them. Just no fluids or cowls.

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    Wrong decade guys. Last decade guys would never buy a four stroke , till they quit selling two strokes. They / you flopped like fish on a hot dock . Now in the era of Joemalla/Kerry .. you want more power from existing model's .. come on man .. better get some majic crystals for your cardiac arrhythmia converter .. Pppffftttttt
    That or a longer extension cord.
    Isn't it about time you guys quit thinking of yourselves .. and start getting ready to contribute to the two trillion dollar investment of convincing mother nature she is wrong in the manor in which she deals with the planet on a daily basis ...
    OK , well maybe 1.75 trillion .. the skim gets spread wider these days .. will .25 trillion be enough ..???

    2021 will be an exciting year for horsepower ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanMarine View Post
    forget the ProXS we really need a 200 or a 225 "R" with a sportmaster and solid mounts out of either the inline 4 or the V6 with the lightweight cowl and shave weight maybe a 15 mid to keep these under 500lb (the v6 is currently about 520lb despite advertisement wt and the v8 i believe around 560 or so) We basically need a replacement for the 200xs
    Totally agree that a V6 225 "R" would be the ticket and easy to live with given 3 years of warranty.

    As to weight, Mercury Racing tells us the 3 ram 300R weighs 512 lbs while we know the true all in scale weight is 561 lbs. I'd think getting V6 "R" under 500 pounds would be pretty easy for them if they decide to do it.

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    Stop trying to apply common sense ..

    Like it or not .. Power gave you the truth, done in his version of the queen's English.

    If a dogs bollocks 225 - 300 horse outboard is of your desire, then quit banging on about the Mum ship doing it for you. Good god man get on with building the bloody thing yourself ... ( or something similar to that)

    Or build an old two stroke, cuz you can self wty. a half a dozen (or more) of them ... for what the new wty. really costs .. <--- {two skroke earl]={{{{

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    Quote Originally Posted by home made tunnel View Post
    You're almost correct. They include the gearcase while weighing them. Just no fluids or cowls.
    The cowl on a 300R was weighed by Wildman and is a fat 28 lbs.

    A V6 with a lightweight cowl is one quick and easy weight saver. Give the people a 225 "R" V6 with three years of warranty!

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