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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeFever View Post
    Testing first is what I will do so I can see what happens. Great info thanks, now all I need is to time this out and get glassing. I'll start a build thread when I get ready to go
    Looking forward to it!

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    Well now Im pretty much set on going with diviny cel core and coosa transom, floor, and stringers getting away from wood entirely. Im also starting to think maybe epoxy is a better way to go because Im such a noob at this. I still need to gel the entire hull when Im done its original gel os totally thrashed and half sanded off by the previous guy. Theres holes in the hull I have to deal with so that has me concerned with the epoxy.

    I still think vinyl ester is the best bet all round because I read it sticks better and is more water proof than poly and gel sticks to it. Ahh man im spinning in circles a bit. Straighten me out fellas
    Hydrostream dreamin

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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeFever View Post
    Well now Im pretty much set on going with diviny cel core and coosa transom, floor, and stringers getting away from wood entirely. Im also starting to think maybe epoxy is a better way to go because Im such a noob at this. I still need to gel the entire hull when Im done its original gel os totally thrashed and half sanded off by the previous guy. Theres holes in the hull I have to deal with so that has me concerned with the epoxy.

    I still think vinyl ester is the best bet all round because I read it sticks better and is more water proof than poly and gel sticks to it. Ahh man im spinning in circles a bit. Straighten me out fellas
    I would absolutely, positively, without a doubt listen to xstream Vking before me but I was going back and forth on wood or composite like you, I said screw it im using coosa for the transom and knees and core cell for the core. I’m still going to use marine ply for the stringers and floor. The core cell is easy to work with, I cut it with a razor knife. I got all my material from Jamestown distributors, I had no clue who to get the material from other than surfing the web and they popped up a lot, I gave them a call, I told the guy what I was looking to do and he took time and answered plenty of my questions. I got what I ordered and received it on the date he said. I got the 2:1 resin with slow hardener and have had plenty of time to work with it, 40 minutes is what the directions say. I will say this tho, the resin/epoxy and composite material is expensive. Good luck.

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    Material cost isn’t a concern I want to do this once and make it last. I read a post a while back where there was a vid linked with impact tests to various core materials and all of them cracked except for the diviny cel. The idea of slight give instead of rock hard til it snaps appeals to me plus the anti rot element. I want to seal this up realllll good too which is why I started thinking epoxy might be better plus the extended work time for my newb skills sounds helpful although it also might make it too stiff?
    Hydrostream dreamin

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    I had the same concerns on toughness of the core cell vs balsa but the rot factor won me over. Also with the amount of time and money I’ll have in this boat, I’d don’t plan on beating the snot out of the hull and trying to break it.

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    No composite core has anywhere near the strength of balsa. Rot is only a factor when the layup is bad. Hydrostream used resin sparingly and the dry glass and exposed balsa wicked up water. They still lasted 20 years. Lay it up right and it will be sealed. Seal it and it will last forever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeFever View Post
    Material cost isn’t a concern I want to do this once and make it last. I read a post a while back where there was a vid linked with impact tests to various core materials and all of them cracked except for the diviny cel. The idea of slight give instead of rock hard til it snaps appeals to me plus the anti rot element. I want to seal this up realllll good too which is why I started thinking epoxy might be better plus the extended work time for my newb skills sounds helpful although it also might make it too stiff?
    That guy name is andy. boatworks today on youtube , hes a glass genius

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    Not to get to far off track here but what are jet ski hulls made out of? People beat the living piss out of these day after day.

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    I do take very good care of my things but I do work them for their intended purpose. I want to have as much protection as possible and be able to leave it in the drink without worry. I’m not planning on bearing it up over hard wave hits either.
    Hydrostream dreamin

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    You can't go wrong using either a quality epoxy or a vinyl resin. Prep and careful application is more important than the resin. With it being hot weather and epoxy a little more time /temp tolerant it might be slightly better.

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    Prep I understand. I’ll start a build thread soon as I get to it and welcome any and all advice as I go. Thanks gents
    Hydrostream dreamin

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    i did some repairs last yr. i found that instead of actually measuring by volume i went by weight for the mekp i had alot better results and consistency.
    Also i found this place to be the cheapest around for cloth

    https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/boat-parts?cat=5122
    https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/bo...y-the-yard?p=2


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    Quote Originally Posted by nitro_rat View Post
    No composite core has anywhere near the strength of balsa. Rot is only a factor when the layup is bad. Hydrostream used resin sparingly and the dry glass and exposed balsa wicked up water. They still lasted 20 years. Lay it up right and it will be sealed. Seal it and it will last forever...
    ...what about a boston whaler? its a foam sandwich "composite". glass-foam-glass. the core by itself is not a composite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    ...what about a boston whaler? its a foam sandwich "composite". glass-foam-glass. the core by itself is not a composite.
    Whalers are foam filled, not foam cored!

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    Monocoque type foam core construction more accurately. It is used as a core reinforcement in this application.

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