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Thread: BRP just discontinued all E-TECS
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05-30-2020, 12:36 AM #136
The EPA rules were gradually phased in until 2006, starting with model year 1998. Look at table 1 at the last page of this document if you don't believe it:
https://tohatsuoutboards.net/documen...-standards.pdf
Mercury launched the DFI and OMC launched the FICHT in 1996, i.e. long before the EPA rules were in force. They could have waited, but they rushed the products to market, likely because both were trying to beat the other guy.
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05-30-2020, 12:43 AM #137
In every single test I have seen that has compared Mercury Optimax against other engines, it has consistently been the most fuel efficient. That has been in comparison to FICHT/Etec, HPDI (which was the fuel hog of the trio, btw), as well as every 4-stroke.
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05-30-2020, 12:52 AM #138
That is not what I said. Read my post again. I said that the Evinrudes had no meaningful advantage in those areas.
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05-30-2020, 12:58 AM #139
You pretty much summed it up there.
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05-30-2020, 02:07 AM #1405000 RPM
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WTF is all the PRESENT crap? Can't we just talk about Evinrude? Obviously some of us aren't in on the joke. Unless it's some sort of emoji that my phone isn't showing...
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05-30-2020, 02:52 AM #141Screaming And Flying!
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And we only just got the E tec 3 cyl 150 to finally see a 2 stroke that beats a 4 slug in all areas
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05-30-2020, 04:05 AM #142
I still can't fully accept that Evinrude is gone after 110 years. The three-cylinder E-TEC engines were spectacular. I tested the 140 and 150 and they were little beasts. I was getting set to publish my full article on those too. What a shame. But BRP had to do what they had to do, and I can only hope somehow there might be a future for Evinrude at some point, and in some way. I'm sure we will see some good things from the new partnership with Mercury.
Everybody at Evinrude has always been first-class to me and they've always made sure I was invited to their press events for the sake of everybody here. I met Karl Sandstrom way back in Key Largo in 2006. Priceless memories and I could never thank them all enough. I still have the Micky Mouse fishing pole set I won at that press event for catching the smallest fish that day.
I have tens of thousands of photos I've shot at the Evinrude press events over the last 15+ years and I'm thinking of putting many of them all into a huge gallery here. I suppose those photos might be seen in a different context at some point.
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05-30-2020, 06:50 AM #1436000 RPM
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You're right Forkin. Quick Google box search on 2020 boat sales below. Yes, boats are typically a luxury, but when so many other options are taken off the table, the luxury of a boat may become much more attractive. One last time, I understand many/most businesses are suffering negative consequences from covid, but boat sales seem to be doing fine. My son sold 2 boats yesterday. These aren't the 15k oldies most of us deal with, more like 100 to 250k saltwater rigs, used.
Search results...
Nevada-based Boulder Boats, which operates a dealership in Visalia, claims new boat sales up 34% year over year, used boat sales up 58%, and February 2020 gross receipts for the dealer group is up more than 50% for the same period last year.
Another....
Some US boat dealers note sales uptick despite Covid-19
By*Craig RitchieApril 02, 2020
Interest rate cuts and low fuel prices said to drive interest in boating as a means of social distancing
I haven't looked very hard. Those are a couple quick notes. And based on talking with people in the industry, I believe boat sales are doing well, inspite of covid. That's all I'm saying Forkin. Nowhere on dictionary.com does it state that all businesses must suffer simultaneously.
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05-30-2020, 09:40 AM #144Screaming And Flying!
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05-30-2020, 09:52 AM #145Screaming And Flying!
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05-30-2020, 11:26 AM #146Screaming And Flying!
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05-30-2020, 01:28 PM #147
Power ~ FuMP ,
They couldn't sell the ones they had .. now you come up with even more bizarre , out in left field idea's on design and sale's gimmicks …
I asked who had plans of buying a brand new e-rude this or next year .. I noticed no one said .. Me That includes the two of yazz …
Did either one of youz two happen to buy a new e-rude in the last decade ???
Still wonder why they locked the doors ??? Duuuuu ..
If only they listened .. and offered a flex fuel / dropped cylinder / supercharged / compound micro enturbolated / five cylinder two stroke with internal and external balance shafts .
Maybe call it the …. "Westbend NorthStar Gee Ole it's CARB legal SuperStroke"
Sales gimmick .. It may be heavy and ugly , but it sure is slow .. ehh
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05-30-2020, 02:10 PM #148
On a lighter note......anyone here know that Ole Evinrude actually stole the whole outboard idea while apprenticing/working for Henry Miller in the late 1890's ?
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05-30-2020, 02:44 PM #149Screaming And Flying!
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I heard he liked ice cream and women....They both were the impetus for his creation. Oh, and he didn't like rowing either.
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05-30-2020, 03:18 PM #150The Historic Photo Master
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