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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    yes 525 merc, 725 illmor. Etc. You tube has lots of video. The boat that ran 137 was full interior lake boat.
    Wait till you see the 34 run it will be even faster.
    Gator, you know Blake, his Tuff24 with a 300xs runs 116 and is still being setup.
    Rob what are you saying on the bold? Tuff34?
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    34 is in the design phase...big single I/O or twin 450Rs.

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    I CAN ALWAYS MAKE ANOTHER DOLLAR, BUT I CANNOT MAKE ANOTHER DAY

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    It will run this summer
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    Wow looking forward to seeing that one in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    Gator, you know Blake, his Tuff24 with a 300xs runs 116 and is still being setup.
    W/a single???

    You boys up north always did walk softly but carry bad ass rigs.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    W/a single???

    You boys up north always did walk softly but carry bad ass rigs.
    yes with a single 300 something hour 300xs with a DBR 1.1 ecu flash. It is lake used all the time, wife kid etc. Put your foot in it and it will go.
    The same boat with an illmor 570 is a 120 boat
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    34 is in the design phase...big single I/O or twin 450Rs.

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    Stop it

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    When you beach the boat you can play shuffleboard on the deck.
    We have invented the world; WE see

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    Incredible!

    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    yes with a single 300 something hour 300xs with a DBR 1.1 ecu flash. It is lake used all the time, wife kid etc. Put your foot in it and it will go.
    The same boat with an illmor 570 is a 120 boat
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    I don’t get the advantage of a sharp V and a bunch of steps vs a pad V bottom. It’s hard to visualize less wetted area than the 28 at 125 mph

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    one of the winningest hulls in history

    because the SV29 won so many race, they were forced to add weights into the boat to "level the playing field"

    did the same for Pirate Super Stock Class, not add weights but the Pirate was told to do other things...Shadow Pirate



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    I'm not saying that if TUFF entered races races, they would not win, I'm not saying that...

    TUFF began as a race team as I understand it

    Outerlimits SV29

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    Very successful race boat, but it didn't win without some very talented folks under the hatch. Doc Jansen and Brian Forehand were a very competitive force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    I don’t get the advantage of a sharp V and a bunch of steps vs a pad V bottom. It’s hard to visualize less wetted area than the 28 at 125 mph
    2 completely purpose built hulls,,,,,
    tuff low deadrise with pad,,,,speed and smaller snotty water (low profile speed boat)
    outerlimits deep vee deadrise with no pad cuts through the rough water and upon reentering the water softer landing with no pad ( offshore boat)
    padded boat in offshore race conditions beats u up,,,,,,,
    2 different boats
    just as the new 34 tuff up against a 34 phantom,,,,calm water tuff should be faster,,,rough water phantom more sustainable higher speed and more stable and safer
    all in what boating u do and if speed only matters get the padded boat
    if use in bigger water conditions narrow deep vee better ride
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    I like the 30' Phantom outboard myself. He is setting one up with 450Rs currently.

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