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    all for tha sake of pleasing tha eye!.. wire it up enjoy tha lights BUT its till not gonna be a hit tha button, release and it will start!.. don't hold tha button down, it won't start... good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killerpirate View Post
    It doesnt have to start on the first try, i just want the bendix to stay engaged to the flywheel if the engine fires once, and not pop back once the outboard fires once. So i dont have to turn te key back to on, and then turn it to start again. I want to keep starting as long as i have the key in the "start" position.
    Given the design of the starter (as mentioned in 2nd post) I don't think this is possible without changing the starter?
    For the signal that the engine is running, I think your best bet is to monitor the tach signal, like you already mentioned in your 1st post. Cranking rpm and idle rpm differ substantially.

    Although it is overkill/a lot of work, I get that some people enjoy fiddling with projects like these..

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    If your having starting problems with the bendix kicking down you probably have other issues. Its caused by one cylinder firing then the next desn't, it may just need the carb synch adjusted. Check the primer system... Check compression too if it does it even with it not firing you may have a low cyl..
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    Quote Originally Posted by H2OPERF View Post
    If your having starting problems with the bendix kicking down you probably have other issues. Its caused by one cylinder firing then the next desn't, it may just need the carb synch adjusted. Check the primer system... Check compression too if it does it even with it not firing you may have a low cyl..
    Thanks for your reply. But which old 2 sstroke outboard start on the first try? Isnt it common with those engine that they are hard to start. They sputter a little bit on the first 2-3 tries (ie. fire one cylinder), but after 2-3 tries they fire up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by killerpirate View Post
    Thanks for your reply. But which old 2 sstroke outboard start on the first try? Isnt it common with those engine that they are hard to start. They sputter a little bit on the first 2-3 tries (ie. fire one cylinder), but after 2-3 tries they fire up?
    My 34 year old 2 and strokes started with a tap of the key.
    And my current 2 strokes still start with the tap of the key even first start of the year.
    LETS GO BRANDON.... LETS GO BRANDON

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    Well, good for you. Mine doesnt.

    Maybe, after all your suggestions i will go for the hold button to start system. It is easier for sure, but i am never shy of a technical challenge.

    For those interested, here is the panel i designed.

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    My point was NO it isn't common to start like that
    LETS GO BRANDON.... LETS GO BRANDON

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    think ta do what you want would involve a micro processor with inputs and outputs etc.?.. way more than needed jus ta start and stop a mercury... jmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlwjkw View Post
    think ta do what you want would involve a micro processor with inputs and outputs etc.?.. way more than needed jus ta start and stop a mercury... jmo.
    Exactly, thats the reason i do not wanna do that. it would be possible this way, but i am by no means going to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrichartz View Post
    My point was NO it isn't common to start like that
    I am sorry, you are right. But there are a couple of pages on this forum where everybody is saying that the 2+2 mercs can be hard to start. So youre saying that my engine should always fire up straight away? I always assumed the single fire the first couple of times are normal for such an old and used motor? I will check the carb synch, thanks for your reply.

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    possible and probably more expensive than what tha whole rig is worth.......

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    would venture ta say there's not a 2 stroke merc built when stone cold will start with a "bump" of tha key on initial start up... they all need a prime of sorts first time!... jmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killerpirate View Post
    I am sorry, you are right. But there are a couple of pages on this forum where everybody is saying that the 2+2 mercs can be hard to start. So youre saying that my engine should always fire up straight away? I always assumed the single fire the first couple of times are normal for such an old and used motor? I will check the carb synch, thanks for your reply.
    Meant to say too if you go thru the motor and get it to where it does start ***easier maybe not tap of the key**" you really don't need to try and make it a one push.. holding the button won't be that long and alot easier.. if I said that right
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    Quote Originally Posted by killerpirate View Post
    Thanks for your reply. But which old 2 sstroke outboard start on the first try? Isnt it common with those engine that they are hard to start. They sputter a little bit on the first 2-3 tries (ie. fire one cylinder), but after 2-3 tries they fire up?
    If it sputters and wants to die after it fires push the choke in to keep it running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killerpirate View Post
    I am sorry, you are right. But there are a couple of pages on this forum where everybody is saying that the 2+2 mercs can be hard to start. So youre saying that my engine should always fire up straight away? I always assumed the single fire the first couple of times are normal for such an old and used motor? I will check the carb synch, thanks for your reply.
    2+2 motors have an accelerator pump, pump the throttle a couple times after priming the ball, then when it fires use the choke to keep it running if it tries to die.

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