Covid-19 live

[SS Minnow]

[JPEROG]

As if Illinois isn't enough of a disaster the billionaire Democrat POS governor has deemed it necessary to close all eating establishments and bars today at end of business. Since very few of us are billionaires there will be catastrophic consequences for most of the owners. Then think about all their employees that are most likely paycheck to paycheck. I understand this Wuhan crap is serious but in my lifetime I have never seen anything blown out of proportion to this extent. The cost will take a serious toll on us all.

Rock

I have a good friend with a very large business based out of South Central Illinois and gun sales have gone up 35% for the first two weeks of March in comparison to the first two weeks of any month in the past 30. You guys have a mess on your hands and they wore your last governor (good guy) out. I guess the rapidly declining population numbers don't offer him a big enough clue to understand what they have created.

Joe

[rock]

The clown's a billionaire with zero clue how the rest of the world lives. For example my trailer plates have gone from $18 under the previous gov. to an astounding $118 and my truck plates went from $101 to $151. I know there are other states with higher but at least they have roads that won't kill you. All our tax money goes north and nothing gets done down here. Former gov tried like hell but unions and Chicago finally broke him. Now we have this dumbass democrat that does nothing but oil the machine and fill his own pockets. Hope he ends up like the previous few Illinois govs and finds out what our prison system is all about.

Rock

[Noah Burns]

this is a totally different animal. I agree that media hype is part of it. but the virus itself is no less deadly. talking about it as if the virus itself is some kind of partisan tool is just ignorant.

[SS Minnow]

this is a totally different animal. I agree that media hype is part of it. but the virus itself is no less deadly. talking about it as if the virus itself is some kind of partisan tool is just ignorant.

Yet that does not stop some from talking, gloating about market failures, without offering a solution.

Correct me if I am wrong. What kind of solution is anybody offering?

What kind of indifference is anybody opposing?

It is almost like a certain faction of our population would prefer to see mass casualties to prove their point.

Nice !!!!

Go Liberal/Leftist's/Never Trumpists!!!!!
You win, we all die!!!!!!

[Noah Burns]

You obviously don’t pay much attention to where the hardest hit areas are, as related to your “liberals are behind this” theory.

if they’re doing this, shouldn’t they have picked somewhere other than their strongest areas to hit the hardest with their own disease?

[rock]

I think maybe you are missing the point. Nobody thinks the Demolibs created the disease. It's their promoting of fear and retarded actions that are pissing most of us off. When the Demolibs were in charge during H1N1 did the government shut down schools and businesses costing 1000s their livelihoods? Were there runs on grocery stores causing those that need certain items to do without? It's not the disease we a bitching about. Everyone knows it is serious but if you read some of the info posted by scientists and doctors you will see they are also concerned more about the fear mongering than the disease itself. It has an extremely high survival rate and while it can be serious to those with underlying issue combined with age for the most part it is very survivable. I personally am one of those at risk considering I am old, have had 3 heart attacks, tripple bypass, and COPD. No reason to destroy the lives of many small business people and throw the economy in the crapper. You also have morons like Bill Maher stating he hopes the economy tanks so Trump will not get another 4 years. And you wonder why there are so many opposed to the actions of the left.

Rock

[John S]

You obviously don’t pay much attention to where the hardest hit areas are, as related to your “liberals are behind this” theory.

if they’re doing this, shouldn’t they have picked somewhere other than their strongest areas to hit the hardest with their own disease?

A lot of people don't look beyond their own front door. It's a serious situation, but the best you can do is follow some basic tips that have been laid out. The Joe Rogan podcast just had on am infesctios disease specialist, Micheal Osterholm. Check it out on youtube, lots of good info.

Take care everyone, stay calm, be smart.

[David - WI]

COVID-19 has killed at least 90 of the more than 4,580 people diagnosed with the disease in the U.S.

versus

According to the United Nations World Population Prospects report, approximately 7,452 people die every day in the United States.

[FMP]

Death rate of flu about 0.1%, death rate of CV from 2-7% in countries like Italy etc. Try to limit or stop the spread because it will spread if no actions are taken.

[David - WI]

Death rate of flu about 0.1%, death rate of CV from 2-7% in countries like Italy etc. Try to limit or stop the spread because it will spread if no actions are taken.

That's going to turn out to be grossly overstated once they start widespread testing; many, many people have the CV-19 virus without symptoms or haven't visited a doctor because the symptoms were so mile. Once those cases get added in, I will bet the mortality rate will be equal to or less than the normal flu.

[FMP]

It's the reality. Perhaps all you with different opinions should qualify those statements with credentials in infectious diseases control.

[David - WI]

This means that if there are cases which are not diagnosed – for example because they are mild or asymptomatic – then the CFR does not provide a good measure of the probability of dying from the disease. If there are a large number of undiagnosed cases, we would overestimate the probability of dying from this disease. The CFR value would be too high.

The early data from China suggests that the majority of coronavirus disease cases are mild. 81% of the 44,415 studied Chinese cases during the early period of the outbreak had only mild symptoms (no pneumonia or only mild cases of pneumonia).33 This makes it likely that some cases were so mild that they were never diagnosed as COVID-19. This would mean that the total number of people infected could be significantly higher than the number of diagnosed cases. If this is the case then the probability of dying from the disease is lower than the measured CFR.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

[David - WI]

100 people a day die in car accidents in the US... the country is essentially shut down over a virus killing 3 people a day? WTF???

[FMP]

Chinese are saying the US brought on the spread to China.

Is the US initiating germ warfare?


Containment of such in practice as now happening is a good first trial run. In the future such immediate instant responses may be necessary.

No harm will come from taking appropriate measures to halt the spread and resulting lower infection and mortality rates.

As much as 30-70% of any population could contract it. The death rate from that group is a significant amount.

Of course those who suggest natural progression is best do still have that right to selectively agree or disagree with the science.