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    I’d guess ‘1997/98???

    That is when I bought my first 24’ Sonic and one of Greg’s friends contacted me about doing a story on that project and I thought S/F was a new printed boat magazine.

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    Yeah Capt has a point, I first learned about Scream and Fly from the Hydrostream web site, one of my original reasons to get on the Web, back in the 90's ?

    What year did Greg first start the original basic site?
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBS View Post
    Wow, great video
    What was the most popular model?
    As far as sales go your guess is as good as any. When it comes to racing I believe it would be Viking, Vector, Viper, Vandal.

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    My father was into opc back in the day, as a kid in the mid to late 70's my dad bought the vector 1 that was used to test the bottom changes that Howard was going to make to the vector II. I got the chance to go to the factory with him to pick up the hull, got to meet Howard as he and my dad bull ****ed in his office of what seamed like a year to me, that gave me the chance to rome aroud the Pipkorn complex. I was suprized at how modist the place was. And I think that his father made shopping carts there or somthing at that time or before as there was peices of new shopping carts all over the placeClick image for larger version. 

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ID:	455885 Pic's are of the boat that was bought that day, after the removal of the filler that was on the bottom in the delta wing area
    1994 Brad Collins Mirage Jag.with 1990 2.4 BP E.F.I Offshore

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    I have studied a few great builders of things. They all share a commonality which is passion for their building potential rooted in childhood. IIRC Pipcorn SR offered to build a boat with Howard age 12 or so if he helped work at his shop which was some sort of metal working place ( shopping carts it seems at the end? ) and he and his dad built a wood boat, went racing with it, came in dead last. Then the thinking began, the REAL thinking. Here we all are enjoying the results

    Please feel free to correct me if Im wrong in the above this is going on memory only here.


    *edit* as for a modest shop? Theres business people who put the money in their pockets FIRST and build the minimum acceptable product. Then theirs business people who put the money in the PRODUCT first, and worry about filling their pockets later.
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    Hydrostream dreamin

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    After all this time they’re still gorgeous at rest or in flight.

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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    My best friend was killed in a Ventura at the Jax Outboard club ['75] and I bought a Vampire [same hull] less than a year later. I then bought a Vector an my Brother bought a Viper and a Vking. I switched to Allison in '98.

    "Confidence" is that wonderful feeling you had right before you fully understood your true situation.- Unknown
    I don’t know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they terrify me.- Duke of Wellington
    “I am not afraid of an Army of lions lead by a sheep; I am afraid of sheep lead by a lion.” – Alexander the Great
    Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons.-Douglas MacArthur

    Allison GSE 300XS

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    I miss that boat, but I was going to get hurt or worse in it. None of the others and there have been many ran like that one. 90 or 340 hp thats how it flew. A good friend and his son wanted a first boat so I gave it to them with a really nice inline 140. It went from ol' grey to an amazing blue/purple metal flake flip flop.

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