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    Being a Ford transmission tech, I see a pile of these cars, sometimes 3-4 a day. Far more Focus issues than Fiesta, mostly due to the larger engine and more weight, but most have clutch or control module concerns. I was told they couldn't abandon it due to the CAFE fuel regulations, these were the 2 leaders for Ford in North America and couldn't go backwards on their advertised fuel economy by throwing a torque converter automatic in it. (Which they had readily available, the Transit Connect uses it, and is the same platform) Of all that I have seen, there have only been a handful that really wouldn't move, and they have been other mechanical concerns, not the clutch or control module. It's too bad, the rest of the vehicle has been really reliable.

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    Well, there is another "unintended consequence" sponsored by our overbearing government agency, the illustrious EPA.


    Quote Originally Posted by idvette View Post
    Being a Ford transmission tech, I see a pile of these cars, sometimes 3-4 a day. Far more Focus issues than Fiesta, mostly due to the larger engine and more weight, but most have clutch or control module concerns. I was told they couldn't abandon it due to the CAFE fuel regulations, these were the 2 leaders for Ford in North America and couldn't go backwards on their advertised fuel economy by throwing a torque converter automatic in it. (Which they had readily available, the Transit Connect uses it, and is the same platform) Of all that I have seen, there have only been a handful that really wouldn't move, and they have been other mechanical concerns, not the clutch or control module. It's too bad, the rest of the vehicle has been really reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berdes View Post
    Well, there is another "unintended consequence" sponsored by our overbearing government agency, the illustrious EPA.
    And the overbearing previous administration hell bent on doing the impossible.

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    How does this tie to the EPA or the previous administration. No one outside forced Ford to make a bad transmission decision. The cars would have met emissions requirements with a torque converter.

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    It's not just emission standards, CAFE standards are based on MPG.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpor...e_fuel_economy

    "On May 19, 2009, President Barack Obama proposed a new national fuel economy program which adopts uniform federal standards to regulate both fuel economy and greenhouse gas emissions while preserving the legal authorities of DOT, EPA and California. The program covered model year 2012 to model year 2016 and ultimately required an average fuel economy standard of 35.5 miles per US gallon (6.63 L/100 km; 42.6 mpg‑imp) in 2016 (of 39 miles per gallon for cars and 30 mpg for trucks), a jump from the 2009 average for all vehicles of 25 miles per gallon. Obama said, "The status quo is no longer acceptable."
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    If Ford needed the extra mpg for their corporate average fuel economy they would still be selling small cars, even at a loss, to boost their average. Instead Ford stopped selling cars.

    bad internal decision

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    I have had 3 of those cars. 2 fiestas, and 1 focus. The fiesta's transmissions were horrible until they came out with a tsb from ford. They did the update for free. After that there were fine. On certain occasions, like climbing steep hills, it will neturalize by itself. You had to restart the car and back down the hill and get a running start. The focus didnt have that problem. The bad part is that both of those cars were pretty decent and reliable. Transmission definitely needed to be redisigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    If Ford needed the extra mpg for their corporate average fuel economy they would still be selling small cars, even at a loss, to boost their average. Instead Ford stopped selling cars.

    bad internal decision
    If you don't sell an economy car, you're exempt from including economy car standards in your corporate average.

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    UN fortunately ferd is still selling bad trannies. I get more tsb stuff about my 2 f150's than I ever got with ANY other vehicle I have owned. Mustangs are having trans problems too. This new stuff (6-10 speeds) is so complicated it is just about impossible to rely on it to be trouble free with any certainty.

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    i am familiar with the focus trans issues. what a pos. what new ford should my niece replace it with? she likes fords.

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    DIL has a Fusion. Been trouble free. Had 1 recall for a loose bolt on steering wheel column.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    i am familiar with the focus trans issues. what a pos. what new ford should my niece replace it with? she likes fords.
    Well if she has the cash I'd get this.
    https://www.ford.com/performance/gt/...t-revealcta-gt
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    It took GM to fix Fords transmission problems

    https://www.autoinfluence.com/11-thi...-transmission/
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    Quote Originally Posted by XstreamVking View Post
    DIL has a Fusion. Been trouble free. Had 1 recall for a loose bolt on steering wheel column.
    Speaking of loose.....here's scream and flys loose but behind the wheel...........see above post
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