This is insane...CANCEL T-DAY?

[Dave S]

FUGIMO..... not an Earther..... I knew it......

[Forkin' Crazy]

I am not an earther, global warming guy, none of that. just reporting what "I" see every day "here".

Hey, no flames coming from me. There is always a logical explanation. Look at New Orleans. At one time it was above sea level. It is sinking. And the calcium sink hole thing in FL, what causes that? I know I have read up on it.

Way to many variables to pinpoint it on one cause. That is why the "Global Warming" fallacy is so flawed. What about the SUN!!!

Oh, had to add, when most of these were created, they took the dredged mud and made a mound. Then built houses on it. They do the same thing here. This mud can be rather fluid...

[Robby321]

please dont flame me. i live on same tidal property home here in "south" florida for over 30 years. on this same exact water for decades prior. all seawalls here, so very easy to gauge. "south" florida(gulfstream, big inlets/shipping ports, etc.) waters are unique to "south" florida. different here direct on ocean than gulf side, east northern florida, panhandle, etc. our tidal water levels, twice a day, are much higher in the last 10 years or so. saw signs of this prior to that. how much higher? anywhere from 2'' to 12'' and more, depending on time of year. many of the older canal system waterfront homes have had to raise their seawalls. many of these canals were dredged out/created in the 50's during the building boom then. for "whatever" reason, the water is even getting higher every year here. as of this year, there is a new building code, when a waterfront home is sold, it must have its concrete seawall raised. you'd have to see it it to believe. I am not an earther, global warming guy, none of that. just reporting what "I" see every day "here".

Respect your honesty, but that is proving me point. Florida in NOT on solid granite bedrock like me, but Limestone which is softer.. Its sinking if anything.
Think New Orleans.."Why was New Orleans built below sea level? It wasn't. When the city was founded in 1718 it was above sea level - and parts of it are still above sea level (only about 5 to 10 feet though). But it had a problem - the city was built on a flood plane and surrounded by a swamp."
And I'm lower bottom Puget Sound. Our tide swings are like +18 to -3 in Spring. 21 feet twice a day. Low tide we have a spare island on the bay front me. Many a sailboat get stuck till tide back. Can't read a chart (or that big red buoy). But we are on bed rock so only move with a earthquake, and thats sideways, not down. Heres a pic how far water has to come in from the ocean. And you can damn near water ski from the dock rushing tides! (Red lines are Killer whales migration routes, I'm bottom where they turn and go back)



The best indicator water levels are our boat launch. And its always the same heights highs depending on the time of year. Only a few hours usable. Low tide? Lotta beach! Launch is by that one tree before the one lane bridge to Steamboat Island.

Marina low tide. Ramp level to main dock high tide..


High tide?

[Robby321]

One more thing. Why sinkholes in FLA? Plus more and more people moving there and more building simple paving over, so more water shed lost, so flooding even if ever so slow, erosion hits canals etc.

Saw this before but in a different way. I grew up a block from the Desplaines river, in Riverside, Ill. In the 50/60's. About 13 miles west of ChiTown. Every winter froze over for ice skating. Forest Preserve other side river, shoreline fires for warm up. Now 50 + years later, seems never a solid frezze, (been gone long time, but the knowledge is from our HS group, FB, so in touch those still there)...well I heard all kinds of excuses and I KNEW "why".

Since a kid there was coming this, a massive build out people moving along the river north all the way to the Fox Chain now! Thats 45 miles away! Towns follow, basic
"pave over paradise, put up a parking lot". So water can't soak in the ground, but head to the river.....ready? Rushing water does not freeze.............

[Robby321]

Curious so looked into this a bit more. Damn, I didn't know this. I've been Fl many times too, have friends there and my Nephew got out of "going south fast SoCal" and went south. Destin and now Tampa.

"The Floridian peninsula is a porous plateau of karst limestone sitting atop bedrock known as the Florida Platform. The emergent portion of the platform was created during the Eocene to Oligocene as the Gulf Trough filled with silts, clays, and sands. Flora and fauna began appearing during the Miocene. No land animals were present in Florida prior to the Miocene.

The largest deposits of rock phosphate in the country are found in Florida.[1] Most of this is in Bone Valley.[2]

Extended systems of underwater caves, sinkholes and springs are found throughout the state and supply most of the water used by residents. The limestone is topped with sandy soils deposited as ancient beaches over millions of years as global sea levels rose and fell. During the last glacial period, lower sea levels and a drier climate revealed a much wider peninsula, largely savanna.[3] While there are sinkholes in much of the state, modern sinkholes have tended to be in West-Central Florida."
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[Robby321]

Also very few if any basements FLA as with a high water table, flood too easy.

Here?

"Home foundations have to be built lower than the level that the ground will freeze to in the winter or else the home could shift when the ground thaws in the spring. Most of the western US does not freeze (or freeze much), so a standard 30-inch foundation depth is safe, which means a crawl-space but no basement."

[Markus]

Poor turkeys. They used to be the politically correct choice.

I remember a fat young lady, incidentally not far from where Robby lives, in a college dining hall who was pissed off that the beef was on the same serving tray as the turkey. People might be thinking that she was eating beef, when she was actually eating politically correct turkey. She wrote a letter to the dining hall management to make them move the turkey to its own tray.

And now, this. In HuffPost, to top it off:

[T]he carbon footprint of a 16-pound turkey creates a total of 34.2 pounds of CO2 — the same amount produced by turkey gravy, cranberry sauce, roasted Brussels sprouts, mashed potatoes, rolled biscuits and apple pie combined.

[Markus]

please dont flame me. i live on same tidal property home here in "south" florida for over 30 years. on this same exact water for decades prior. all seawalls here, so very easy to gauge. "south" florida(gulfstream, big inlets/shipping ports, etc.) waters are unique to "south" florida. different here direct on ocean than gulf side, east northern florida, panhandle, etc. our tidal water levels, twice a day, are much higher in the last 10 years or so. saw signs of this prior to that. how much higher? anywhere from 2'' to 12'' and more

While there is compelling scientific evidence of human-induced global warming, it would only account for a few millimeters of that increase in sea level.

[Robby321]

Some the crap from Twitter is insane!

Ben See
@ClimateBen
·
Nov 9
The Arctic:

1. 95% of old ice gone
2. ice free by 2021-2031
3. fastest warming place on Earth
4. no evidence sea ice will recover
5. heatwaves 20°C more than usual
6. vast wildfires mean carbon bursts
7. melting is destabilising the planet
8. permafrost collapse is irreversible


Ben See
@ClimateBen
·
Nov 9
Replying to
@ClimateBen
Thread with details here:

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Quote Tweet
Ben See
@ClimateBen
· Nov 9
The Arctic will be ice free by 2026 with catastrophic consequences for all life on Earth.

1. fastest warming place on Earth
2. irreversible sea ice death spiral
3. permafrost melt uncontrollable
4. will hasten 2C
5. could even occur by 2022

[mrichartz]

Some the crap from Twitter is insane!

Ben See
@ClimateBen
·
Nov 9
The Arctic:

1. 95% of old ice gone
2. ice free by 2021-2031
3. fastest warming place on Earth
4. no evidence sea ice will recover
5. heatwaves 20°C more than usual
6. vast wildfires mean carbon bursts
7. melting is destabilising the planet
8. permafrost collapse is irreversible


Ben See
@ClimateBen
·
Nov 9
Replying to
@ClimateBen
Thread with details here:

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Quote Tweet
Ben See
@ClimateBen
· Nov 9
The Arctic will be ice free by 2026 with catastrophic consequences for all life on Earth.

1. fastest warming place on Earth
2. irreversible sea ice death spiral
3. permafrost melt uncontrollable
4. will hasten 2C
5. could even occur by 2022

Climate change nut says ...
Yup all the ice will be gone in 2013-14....
comes and goes nothing....

IN 2015........and wait NASA reports says more ice then
ever.... Lol

[Robby321]

Climate change nut says ...
Yup all the ice will be gone in 2013-14....
comes and goes nothing....

IN 2015........and wait NASA reports says more ice then
ever.... Lol

There goes a favorite past time!

[mrichartz]

There goes a favorite past time!

Skitching!! Hell yea

[CDave]

Tell Ben not to worry about the ice being gone. He can buy some at the corner convenient store or just buy a freezer and make his own.

[Dave S]

Skitcheng.... fun when ya young.... looking back....cars coming the other way.....notsosmart.....