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    there's an old saying in the boat business. want to make a million dollars in the boat business? start with five million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooperider View Post
    I talked with Hustler, it is an asset sale. Molds, patterns, the name, website, phone number, etc. Probably a good decent offer would buy it.

    Hmm, I should start a GoFundMe.... I wouldn't have to move the molds far.
    I'm in for a C note ...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    I'm in for a C note ...........
    Cool, only $699,900 to go.

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    I thought Randy’s involvement w/them was the best thing to happen for them.

    I hate hearing how bad Doug fk’d him, like everybody else.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
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    Yeah, I also got banned from the Checkmate Forums because I sold an 8 year old 18ft Checkmate with 11 hours on it to the Moderator Jim Wheaton, "JW". It wasn't "PERFECT" enough for him and he wanted me to pay $1500 to sandblast and repaint his trailer because there was some paint blisters on it. I guess there was a stain in the carpet too. I sold it for $18,000. I was one of two sponsors of the site too. Once I could not advertise or post stuff to help people out, I just called it quits. I'm sure Jim Wheaton is happy about it though.
    " IT'S NOT HOW FAST YOU ARE, IT'S HOW COOL YOU LOOK!!! "

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    It’s a sore point for sure, I don’t think anyone, including JW was happy about it. Just a bad situation all around. I think JW hated that boat with what all happened and didn’t keep it long.
    08 Checkmate 2100br 250xs

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDMAN View Post
    Doug Smith was in the business of stealing from his boat companies and then running them into the ground. The bank took back Checkmate after he quit paying on his loan. Also screwed Bill Combs out of $600k. He stole everything he could from Baja without paying Mercury and suppliers to the tune of a few million dollars until Brunswick took them over. He built a new $850K house the same year!. In 2013 when I was a Checkmate dealer, it seemed like that was one of the best years. Doug Smith did not pay any suppliers for the most part that year. He stuck Mercury, Eddie Marine, Livorsi, etc. I sent him $49,000 for three new motors. His daughter, who runs the office, said send the check and the motors will be here by the time your check gets here. I did not realize that Mercury already cut them off. Well, they closed the doors 1 day after they cashed my check. Never got a penny back and no law enforcement would go after him. He was one of the head guys in his church and even ripped them off. He will always be a thieving scumbag!!!! I hope he still believes in GOD, because heaven has no place for him.











    So do you know anything about the CC version, looks sweet?
    We have invented the world WE see

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    It's the old Baja 25 mold. Looks great, but it's slow.
    " IT'S NOT HOW FAST YOU ARE, IT'S HOW COOL YOU LOOK!!! "

    Check out my new website. (IN PROGRESS) liberatorpowerboats.com



    Things owned. NOTHING!!
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    Visit My Liberator and Checkmate Boats Website

    Rent our Log Cabin in Pigeon Forge, TN. http://www.vrbo.com/419205

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    i seem to recall a dealer had a new cc that he couldn't sell for a very, very long time...like 4 plus years...i could be off on that... i know absolutely nothing about the cc model boat. i just recall it being advertised for sale forever...

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    I use to stock 5-6 Checkmates at all times. Seems lots of people wanted them, but always different colors than I had in stock. The last two I had were 3 and 5 years old, but still new. Needless to say, I lost my ass on them. That's when I started selling only as ordered. My Liberators sell pretty quickly.
    " IT'S NOT HOW FAST YOU ARE, IT'S HOW COOL YOU LOOK!!! "

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    Things owned. NOTHING!!
    Ain't got no toyz, Ain't got no money! I is jus a poor Florida boy!

    Visit My Liberator and Checkmate Boats Website

    Rent our Log Cabin in Pigeon Forge, TN. http://www.vrbo.com/419205

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    Any rumors on anyone purchasing the assets or the brand yet? I see the building was listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDMAN View Post
    I use to stock 5-6 Checkmates at all times. Seems lots of people wanted them, but always different colors than I had in stock. The last two I had were 3 and 5 years old, but still new. Needless to say, I lost my ass on them. That's when I started selling only as ordered. My Liberators sell pretty quickly.
    I learned this. Never build/order a red boat, or a red trimmed boat on spec, for inventory. This usually happens solely because the brain at the top thinks they should have one, just because "they" like red. Big mistake. You will stock it forever & have the most hours on it of any "new" boat in your inventory, because it turns into your demo boat for 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDMAN View Post
    Doug Smith was in the business of stealing from his boat companies and then running them into the ground. The bank took back Checkmate after he quit paying on his loan. Also screwed Bill Combs out of $600k. He stole everything he could from Baja without paying Mercury and suppliers to the tune of a few million dollars until Brunswick took them over. He built a new $850K house the same year!. In 2013 when I was a Checkmate dealer, it seemed like that was one of the best years. Doug Smith did not pay any suppliers for the most part that year. He stuck Mercury, Eddie Marine, Livorsi, etc. I sent him $49,000 for three new motors. His daughter, who runs the office, said send the check and the motors will be here by the time your check gets here. I did not realize that Mercury already cut them off. Well, they closed the doors 1 day after they cashed my check. Never got a penny back and no law enforcement would go after him. He was one of the head guys in his church and even ripped them off. He will always be a thieving scumbag!!!! I hope he still believes in GOD, because heaven has no place for him.
    What goes around Randy. You know the saying. I know, back in the 90's, he & his wife Linda had a new palatial spot on the water in Palm City, Florida...

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    Dayum Fugi , your right .. white trash stankin up the hood ...

    https://www.bizapedia.com/fl/baja-boats-inc.html

    Looks like they run him out of town ...

    https://www.redfin.com/FL/Palm-City/...home/110933515

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    Quote Originally Posted by WILDMAN View Post
    I use to stock 5-6 Checkmates at all times. Seems lots of people wanted them, but always different colors than I had in stock. The last two I had were 3 and 5 years old, but still new. Needless to say, I lost my ass on them. That's when I started selling only as ordered. My Liberators sell pretty quickly.
    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    What goes around Randy. You know the saying. I know, back in the 90's, he & his wife Linda had a new palatial spot on the water in Palm City, Florida...
    It looks like this guy Doug Smith had a long long history of screwing people

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