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    This problem I have happened 5+ yrs years ago? It was new on the market. Lot of guys have used lots of it with no problems. I have to guess I got a bad batch. I know I mixed it properly and it seemed to get hard properly as it was easy to sand. Covered it with 545 epoxy. I have done hundreds of boats over the years and never had a problem. Contacted adtech and got told to pound sand. Just frustrating to do a 3 thousand dollar paint job and have it ruined by a supposed superior product. I can tell you, the sales guy who talked into using it got an ear full.

    83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
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    Quote Originally Posted by XstreamVking View Post
    This problem I have happened 5+ yrs years ago? It was new on the market. Lot of guys have used lots of it with no problems. I have to guess I got a bad batch. I know I mixed it properly and it seemed to get hard properly as it was easy to sand. Covered it with 545 epoxy. I have done hundreds of boats over the years and never had a problem. Contacted adtech and got told to pound sand. Just frustrating to do a 3 thousand dollar paint job and have it ruined by a supposed superior product. I can tell you, the sales guy who talked into using it got an ear full.

    Yeah that does really suck how long did it take for the blisters to appear? I tried to do a search regarding blisters and p 77 and turned up with nothing so that kind of gives me a little better feeling about using it at least it's not a widespread issue that I can tell at least. The batch that I get is only a month old so it's really brand new hopefully I don't have that issue.

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    They didn't start appearing for about a year. They have continued to appear since and are now bad. I have opened up a few that are hidden and the adtech seems crumbly and has failed. The primer and paint is still stuck to the top surface of the adtech but the adtech has let go of the gell and glass under it. Primer is adhered well to the whole deck. Really nice Imron paint job with clear over it with a defect everywhere I used the 77. I have pics of the spots I used the 77 and they match up to where the blisters are. Hopefully can just grind out the bad areas, repair and repaint with no more spots appearing. I don't anticipate you having any problems and would not say stop and don't use it. Harden accurately and mix well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by XstreamVking View Post
    Every time I see that damn adtech 77 I get a little angry. I have blisters in the finish on my V-King every place I used it. Now i'm facing an adtech 77 removal/repaint job of an otherwise perfect paint job on my deck. Never used it before that, never since. I really hope yours is not a problem. Grrrrrrr....
    What happened when you used it? We use it all the time with no prob.

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    It deteriorated and lost adhesion with the substrate to describe it best.

    83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
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    Quote Originally Posted by XstreamVking View Post
    It deteriorated and lost adhesion with the substrate to describe it best.
    Weird, I don't think ive run into that issue yet. Hope it was a isolated issue

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    Love this build. You're almost done !!! Exciting! THink you'll run her at least once before the end of boating season? Oh wait - you're a florida man. Nevermind haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by home made tunnel View Post
    Love this build. You're almost done !!! Exciting! THink you'll run her at least once before the end of boating season? Oh wait - you're a florida man. Nevermind haha.
    My goal is in water running by Christmas, working on sanding the cap right now, btw you messaged me about the battery cables on Facebook a while back, never responded back to me haha.

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    So I have a question, I was working on the cap today for a little, the splashwell we redid , the d cell h80 seems to have darkened from a fresh sheet, is this a bad sign or nothing to worry about? It may have gotten wet or been exposed to the sun for a short. Of time it does not feel brittle or crumbly. I'm just wondering that if it got wet will it change colors? Or is it just from being glassed over? Will this hurt adhesion of fresh glass and or fairing compound? I have attached a picture of a fresh cut piece compared to the splash well that was done about four months ago. It's hard to tell if under the glass is the same color or not but the raw edge is definitely darker.


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    It is no biggie....Sun and stuff in the air contaminate it. Use it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by XstreamVking View Post
    It is no biggie....Sun and stuff in the air contaminate it. Use it.....
    I dug a piece of it out and it's just surface discoloration, it's normal under the top layer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwzteD View Post
    My goal is in water running by Christmas, working on sanding the cap right now, btw you messaged me about the battery cables on Facebook a while back, never responded back to me haha.
    Oh crap - Did i not get back to you? Must have slipped down the list in my inbox. Sorry bud. I dont think i'm in the market for battery cables anymore, but don't think I did that on purpose lol.

    A Xmas dunk would be great! Tell the wife n kid to leave you alone for a couple weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by home made tunnel View Post
    Oh crap - Did i not get back to you? Must have slipped down the list in my inbox. Sorry bud. I dont think i'm in the market for battery cables anymore, but don't think I did that on purpose lol.

    A Xmas dunk would be great! Tell the wife n kid to leave you alone for a couple weeks!

    No worries! Anyway ill be working on the boat today a good amount, been doing two body parts at the gym every day to free up two days for an extra few hours. I got 90% of the cap sanded, looks like there is going to be a lot of work with filling and sanding. if you look into the sun you can see about a million and a half dimples in the front, my guess due to the glass being so thin, Glad we cored it! Ill probably have to drag filler over the whole front and sand and repeat until its close then hope primer fills the rest. On a side note, i got the engine running again, after i took it apart to mod the lower unit it wasn't pumping water. I dropped the LU and reinstalled it, guess i didn't have the key way on the water pump lined up right, ran on the hose last nite for 10 mins, runs like a champ hooked up the water pressure guage to test it 2 psi at idle at trolling speed about 4, and the higher rpm the higher it goes had it to about 12 psi so works well.

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    You will get a shoulder, traps, bicep, and forearm workout with the fairing process. I look like fn popeye after 30yrs of doing boat work....haha.

    83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
    We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XstreamVking View Post
    You will get a shoulder, traps, bicep, and forearm workout with the fairing process. I look like fn popeye after 30yrs of doing boat work....haha.
    You're not kidding, sanding the transom started to hurt my back with all the weird angles I was bending for a longer duration of time.
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