Force/Chrysler

**rock** · 08-11-2019, 02:20 PM

A guy calls a couple days ago to tell me he had just got his boat from a marina that had done a carb rebuild and motor would not run. Charged him $500 and it was worse than before. I noticed a massive amount of gunk around the prop so figured lower seal was out. Hooked up hose and started it. Ran very rough and once timing was removed it would die instantly. Black crap puddled under lower so I thought maybe lower seal was ok it was just loaded up with gas from before the carb rebuild. Since carb had just been rebuilt I removed fuel pump to see if diaphragm was torn and dumping fuel into crankcase. Fuel pump was fine so I removed carb and to my surprise found it was missing the main jet and inlet needle had a huge groove in it. So much for the $500 rebuild. I took a jet out of an old Chrysler 115 Charger and it ran but still very rich. What I need to know is what would be the correct jet for a 1996 Force 40. I can get the needle from Pro Marine but I doubt they have the jet plus I need to know the correct size. Any info appreciated and more importantly if someone has the correct jet I would definitely like to buy it. The 115 Chrysler Charger I stole the jet from is in need of one piston and I would trade entire motor for the correct jet. Thanks

Rock

**SS Minnow** · 08-11-2019, 02:59 PM

http://www.marineengine.com/parts/fo...rburetor-40-hp

**SS Minnow** · 08-11-2019, 03:01 PM

.062 if under 1500ft.
Item #15

**SS Minnow** · 08-11-2019, 03:13 PM

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...-4217&_sacat=0

Originally Posted by rock

A guy calls a couple days ago to tell me he had just got his boat from a marina that had done a carb rebuild and motor would not run. Charged him $500 and it was worse than before. I noticed a massive amount of gunk around the prop so figured lower seal was out. Hooked up hose and started it. Ran very rough and once timing was removed it would die instantly. Black crap puddled under lower so I thought maybe lower seal was ok it was just loaded up with gas from before the carb rebuild. Since carb had just been rebuilt I removed fuel pump to see if diaphragm was torn and dumping fuel into crankcase. Fuel pump was fine so I removed carb and to my surprise found it was missing the main jet and inlet needle had a huge groove in it. So much for the $500 rebuild. I took a jet out of an old Chrysler 115 Charger and it ran but still very rich. What I need to know is what would be the correct jet for a 1996 Force 40. I can get the needle from Pro Marine but I doubt they have the jet plus I need to know the correct size. Any info appreciated and more importantly if someone has the correct jet I would definitely like to buy it. The 115 Chrysler Charger I stole the jet from is in need of one piston and I would trade entire motor for the correct jet. Thanks

Rock

**rock** · 08-11-2019, 07:15 PM

Thanks. Nice link.

Rock

**wmk0002** · 08-12-2019, 10:48 AM

Gosh, so did the guy call the marina and give them an earful? Charging $500 for a single carb rebuild is highway robbery as it is but to also screw up one jet and totally lose the other is salt in the would.

**SS Minnow** · 08-12-2019, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by wmk0002

Gosh, so did the guy call the marina and give them an earful? Charging $500 for a single carb rebuild is highway robbery as it is but to also screw up one jet and totally lose the other is salt in the would.

I was kind of thinking the same. I mean, I am all for free market capitalism. If I had someone that would pay me $500 to rebuild a carb, I would have tested it on the water and made sure it ran at least as good, if not better then when it left the factory. To charge that much and screw it up is a sin.

**racervboat** · 08-12-2019, 01:39 PM

I will now do carb rebuilding for 475.00 a carb .If ya got a v-6 its $2850.00 that's a savings of 150.00 now that's a STEAL.No really I mean a STEAL.

Cant wait for the phone to start ringing. haha I could buy a new carb slap it on and still make money.

**SS Minnow** · 08-12-2019, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by racervboat

I will now do carb rebuilding for 475.00 a carb .If ya got a v-6 its $2850.00 that's a savings of 150.00 now that's a STEAL.No really I mean a STEAL.

Cant wait for the phone to start ringing. haha I could buy a new carb slap it on and still make money.

What if it is fuel in-jeck-ted and only has one carb lookin like thingy?

**racervboat** · 08-12-2019, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by SS Minnow

What if it is fuel in-jeck-ted and only has one carb lookin like thingy?

Well then its the standard flat rate of 2850.00 dem electric carbahooters are perty tricky don't ja know.

**racervboat** · 08-12-2019, 02:54 PM

Hey minnow ya going to stevens point this weekend?

**SS Minnow** · 08-12-2019, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by racervboat

Well then its the standard flat rate of 2850.00 dem electric carbahooters are perty tricky don't ja know.

I doobie knowin.

Thems things bee tokin up much of my thyme.

**SS Minnow** · 08-12-2019, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by racervboat

Hey minnow ya going to stevens point this weekend?

I am part of a Corvette Caravan that is getting together in Bowling Brook next week.
I might be able to change my course, but would not be able to be there with a boat.

**racervboat** · 08-12-2019, 03:06 PM

That's cool looks like weather is going to be on and off iffy?

**rock** · 08-12-2019, 04:52 PM

When he told me $500 I almost puked. The thing only has about ten parts and that's counting gaskets. There are not many in this area working on these things and I am about done so it's only going to get worse. How someone can take a man's money without getting the job done is beyond me.

Rock