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    Sticky timer base.

    So if it's not one thing its another. Motor runs, idles high. Inspected a motor at the shop, it's timer base moves freely and unrestricted. Inspected mine...... Nope, sticky. To the point that the "black cigar thing" actually has to push it back, which puts resistance on the shifter, which I've noticed but not sure what was causing it. So how can I free it up?

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    It’s the insulation melting/breaking down in the stator.

    Youll have to pull the flywheel, stator and timer and use acetone to clean the residue.
    Inspect your stator and if the gooh is coming from it, it’s toast.

    If you’re lucky it came from a previous stator but wouldn’t explain existing condition.

    The stator heats under load and may run fine on the hose.

    Buy a stator.
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    Instigator, can that be done without altering the current timing settings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captaincj View Post
    Instigator, can that be done without altering the current timing settings?
    You don't need to touch the timing adjustment screws to take flywheel stator or timing base off.

    Also if you reply with quote he would get notified and get his attention
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    I had a sticky timer base from the plastic ring that slides, the grease had gotten sticky and acted more like glue. I think I ended up replacing the ring too.............cant remember. But its easy enough to check while you are there........clean and re-grease.

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    Yea x2 with get a stator if it's even melted a little just going to be a pain in the ass even if it lasts a bit better than getting stuck on the water
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    That is correct.
    Ive done that too.
    Easy to get the guides twisted in process.

    Im old and thought I read that he was seeing the black gooh which I’d normal culprit.

    Mrichartz is also correct about not affecting timing.
    Its a 1/2 hr job once you’ve done one.

    Quote Originally Posted by keefallan View Post
    I had a sticky timer base from the plastic ring that slides, the grease had gotten sticky and acted more like glue. I think I ended up replacing the ring too.............cant remember. But its easy enough to check while you are there........clean and re-grease.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    That is correct.
    Ive done that too.
    Easy to get the guides twisted in process.

    Im old and thought I read that he was seeing the black gooh which I’d normal culprit.

    Mrichartz is also correct about not affecting timing.
    Its a 1/2 hr job once you’ve done one.
    I thought the same thing reading yours...
    he said black cigar but talking about linkage?
    Thought he meant black goo
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    dont put grease on the delrin ring under the timer base, use oil or moly lube
    Last edited by powerabout; 05-20-2019 at 09:14 PM.

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    When you pull the flywheel, DO NOT strike the puller or flywheel with a hammer; you will loosen the magnets if you do. And if you do remove the flywheel, get the magnet retainer kit the Pro Marine sells or get it cheaper thru Walmart...

    http://parts.promarineusa.com/CGI-BI...32C061+M50+ENG

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Retainer-...SellerId=18406
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    The goo from the stator is a pain to remove, I have luck using a can of engine tuner (usually end up using the whole can)
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    Wow. Thank you guys. Yes there is goo coming off. Not sure if it's from another stator, but suspect it's from this one.

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    I think the last time I got some of that mess off that area, I used a sharp chisel as a scraper in the areas where I could actually get to. That stuff is the worst..............sticky and thick is a very "light hearted" description of that mess. Good luck.
    Last edited by keefallan; 05-21-2019 at 02:07 AM.

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