The END is near

[FMP]

and the pilots need to have grey hair so they got their license back when they actually needed to know how to fly

And when you touch down a great round of applause from all the passengers in great appreciation.

[FMP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqY8FUDcATE

The truth on just how environmentally clean electric cars are!

What a load

[John S]

This thread reminds me of the old death of the incandescent light bulb thread. We see how that all turned out, eh?

[FMP]

I still use an incandescent in the table lamp where I read

[JPEROG]

When electric cars go further then people travel in a 15 hour period and can be charged in 2, the cost is the same or less then a conventional car, and there are charge port stations available like gasoline stations are available now then we will all see the switch. For your analogy of the light bulbs-They sold when the cost came down, they use less power, and last longer then incandescents-it was a great step forward. Its basically the same thing but it will take a lot longer for the automotive switch to meet the required market demands then it did for led bulbs which are now a dollar Vs. the twenty that they were when they were introduced.

I have no doubt that future generations will see alternative energy in transportation but its not going to happen overnight and I hope that everyone realizes that electric is not the fix when you look at battery disposal and the coal and or nuke required to produce the juice....

Joe

[FMP]

750 hp , about an hour running time, just the beginning.
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/vancou...1_4352713.html

[flabum1017]

This thread reminds me of the old death of the incandescent light bulb thread. We see how that all turned out, eh?

I go through more $5 L.E.D. light bulbs than I ever did 50 cent incandecents......

[flabum1017]

I wonder how much an electric semi costs?

[FMP]

Peterbilt has a couple, as well as Daimler are on it.

[John S]

Joe, I'm an electrician. The wave came when municipalities gave tax incentives/rebates for companies that had high lighting costs from metal hallide, old style flourescent, etc, to retrofit to LED, HO T5 flourescent, and CFL. We we're swamped with the work from that. The efficiency change that came along with that was astounding. 42 ckt lighting panels using every ckt at Max allowed capacity we're at minimum cut in half, as well as less load on the HVAC. I did a retrofit on a cardboard box manufacturer where the temp in the plant dropped 15* getting rid of the metal hallide high bays. Even the best innovation sometimes needs a gentle nudge...

I go through more $5 L.E.D. light bulbs than I ever did 50 cent incandecents......

I can't dispute what you say, because that's your story, and I'm sure you're sticking to it. Mine and many others experience is quite the opposite. Which brand are you using? Do they warranty these lamps?

The first push to electric should be local route delivery. Planned, defined routes, easy to calculate. As far as long trips, I would bet the average driver close to never drives more than 400 miles from home. They cost too much? I know plenty of people that have two SUV's in the garage that are the daily driver's. At best 18-20 mpg. It's a free country, people are welcome to do as they please, but $100G plus of financed vehicles sounds far more expensive than one EV, one ICE. Just sayin...

[JPEROG]

That makes sense but I am referring to the masses. There are a lot of changes needing to take place before "the masses" will be purchasing E.V. as their main mode of transportation. I just pulled my C.C. statement to check before I typed this but I spent $850.00 in fuel last month (part of that was a 1500 mile trip) but the rest was normal running around FL. That being said, if the range and price improvements come soon enough on the E.V., I will most likely have one as a second or third car.

Joe

[powerabout]

They make sense in big cities, in France the local councils/gov cars have been electric for years.
They dont burn coal to make that power

[Forkin' Crazy]

I go through more $5 L.E.D. light bulbs than I ever did 50 cent incandecents......

I have had a few CFLs pop, break, and one lost its smoke!!! Yea, that $hit is just great!!!

[Forkin' Crazy]

How many aircraft are hybrid or electric that are in commercial service? How many ocean going vessels? How many trains in the US?

[Whaaaaat]

How many aircraft are hybrid or electric that are in commercial service? How many ocean going vessels? How many trains in the US?

Don't quote me on this, but I want to say that most modern trains, freighters, cruise ships, and the largest of mining equipment, are all hybrid. And the largest excavators are electric only, direct from the grid.

I would think it's all a function of efficiency thru the drive train. At a certain point the size of the driveshaft and gearboxes just doesn't make sense.