User Tag List

Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: 300r

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    waterloo IN
    Posts
    360
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    12
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    66
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    300r

    Having just read an article on the 5.0 n/a coyote crate engine that makes over 500 hp. We all know this is mild daily driver engine. This shows me that the 4.6 outboard should be making just north of 500 too, over 1000 with boost. Same basic architecture. Am i wrong for thinking the 300r is a Poofter?
    Sure would like a 500 hp 15 inch shaft outboard on my 21 Obsession

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Gonzales, La
    Posts
    1,085
    Thanks (Given)
    114
    Thanks (Received)
    69
    Likes (Given)
    218
    Likes (Received)
    355
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The current coyote has 12/1 compression, direct injection, variable cam timing, and variable intake manifold geometry. That’s a lot more technology, cost, and weight.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Florida Keys
    Posts
    3,042
    Thanks (Given)
    44
    Thanks (Received)
    147
    Likes (Given)
    380
    Likes (Received)
    801
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Apples to oranges in my opinion. But if you want to get technical the hp per pound is going to be WAY closer.


    '95 STV "The Blue Goose"


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Central Wisconsin
    Posts
    81
    Thanks (Given)
    7
    Thanks (Received)
    5
    Likes (Given)
    5
    Likes (Received)
    2
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I would think the 300r more closely resembles the older DOHC 4.6 mustang cobra engines circa 1996-2001 which were rated right around 305-320 hp. Right on par hp-wise and those 4.6 mustang engines were pretty soft on the low end unlike the 300r which seems to have good low end tq.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    waterloo IN
    Posts
    360
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    12
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    66
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I stand corrected, maybe some day.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Formerly Central WI/LOTO Currently PHX AZ
    Posts
    490
    Thanks (Given)
    61
    Thanks (Received)
    82
    Likes (Given)
    1247
    Likes (Received)
    423
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by engineermike View Post
    The current coyote has 12/1 compression, direct injection, variable cam timing, and variable intake manifold geometry. That’s a lot more technology, cost, and weight.
    You forgot to mention the 10-speed transmission...
    A problem is only a problem when viewed as a problem...

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    New Smyrna Beach, FL./LOTO
    Posts
    6,637
    Thanks (Given)
    606
    Thanks (Received)
    920
    Likes (Given)
    1698
    Likes (Received)
    7133
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Bill View Post
    Having just read an article on the 5.0 n/a coyote crate engine that makes over 500 hp. We all know this is mild daily driver engine. This shows me that the 4.6 outboard should be making just north of 500 too, over 1000 with boost. Same basic architecture. Am i wrong for thinking the 300r is a Poofter?
    Sure would like a 500 hp 15 inch shaft outboard on my 21 Obsession
    Save your pennies. Its gonna take a lot of them but my guess is that its coming our way. This 4.6 platform has so many opportunities awaiting for a mad scientist like Dave Bush or the guys at Lingenfelter Engineering to start tweaking on. Very exciting times ahead for sure- I am waiting to see the first 150 N20 kit installed-you know its coming soon.

    Joe

  8. Likes Speed Jr. liked this post
  9. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    New Smyrna Beach, FL./LOTO
    Posts
    6,637
    Thanks (Given)
    606
    Thanks (Received)
    920
    Likes (Given)
    1698
    Likes (Received)
    7133
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by HydroSkreamin View Post
    You forgot to mention the 10-speed transmission...
    Hey hydro, now that we have the torque to support a two speed??? Maybe the sump needs to come on board and make room for little powerglide...

    Joe

  10. Likes Speed Jr. liked this post
  11. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    420
    Thanks (Given)
    4
    Thanks (Received)
    15
    Likes (Given)
    25
    Likes (Received)
    127
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Bill View Post
    Having just read an article on the 5.0 n/a coyote crate engine that makes over 500 hp. We all know this is mild daily driver engine. This shows me that the 4.6 outboard should be making just north of 500 too, over 1000 with boost. Same basic architecture. Am i wrong for thinking the 300r is a Poofter?
    Sure would like a 500 hp 15 inch shaft outboard on my 21 Obsession
    I don’t know about a coyote as an outboard but it’s sure gets my boat to ramp just fine.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	7DBADEAD-A125-40C8-9F99-4C35C6AC7FF9.jpg 
Views:	44 
Size:	416.4 KB 
ID:	434843 (old picture)
    #skaternation
    21 rally sport (sold)
    21 Cougar (sold)
    21 Skater (sold)
    24 skater (sold)
    21 Armstrong (fishing deck) 250 etec
    24 SEB (soon to be laid up)

  12. Likes AZMIDLYF liked this post
  13. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Palm City Fla
    Posts
    7,211
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    834
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    6513
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    Hey hydro, now that we have the torque to support a two speed??? Maybe the sump needs to come on board and make room for little powerglide...

    Joe
    Don't need the bell housing or converter ..
    The case is pretty big considering the size of the parts inside ..
    Don't need two reverse gears either, one or the other could get small ... quick ..


  14. Likes HydroSkreamin liked this post
  15. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    ft pierce fl
    Posts
    1,583
    Thanks (Given)
    30
    Thanks (Received)
    41
    Likes (Given)
    622
    Likes (Received)
    340
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Would just need a barrel shaped case with female input splines. Output could be coupled to current driveshaft to lower unit.
    Need high gear clutch pack to provide 1:1 ratio. Planetary set and band to lock 1:80 low gear. Same power steering pump on motor may supply enough fluid and pressure to unit. Or go with the basic transfer case mechanical setup. 2:1 ratio then pull cable and lock it in 1:1. A gear vendors overdrive setup is also a possible option. Gear vendor changes things. 1:1 then shift to .78:1 overdrive ratio.

Similar Threads

  1. New Mercury 300 Pro XS V8 vs 300R V8
    By Skip 7750 in forum Four Stroke and Direct Injected Two Stroke Engines
    Replies: 46
    Last Post: 10-10-2019, 12:00 PM
  2. Getting my 1st 300R V8 this week.
    By WILDMAN in forum General Boating Discussion
    Replies: 529
    Last Post: 06-10-2019, 11:50 AM
  3. STV RR/Euro + New 300R
    By Talon 25 in forum General Boating Discussion
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 06-16-2018, 09:53 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Frank Mole Transport