Buying a new Cat

[Tightrig 12]

Ludington Cat.....is it the 130mph white Eliminator ?

[moatorbotin]

Ludington Cat.....is it the 130mph white Eliminator ?

No, it's a multi colored crazy paint job "Awesome Cat" named "awesome pussy"

saw it on a few facebook groups. Someone aboved mentioned an Awesome 31 so thought you may have interest in one, and it's local.

[mrichartz]

i was in NO way kicking a guy while he was down, glad you saw it that way though.

simply offering some run down on borrowing from a bank to make his purchase and the processes I used. Was trying to help him do the deal in person without being screwed again.

That's why I was asking..im sure then hes glad to get more help...not personal..to make it clear because you start out questioning decision making and money to burn... it just sounded wrong(problem with posting text)
Not looking to start arguement etc..
The guy asked about a specific bank..
And he just got ****ed out if allot if $$$ doesn't need to be reminded..he's asking for help

And this is not directed towards you at all..general comment

But kind of ****ed up he posted and asked about it before he went to buy it and no one answered or replied..
But as soon as he posted get got scammed and screwed people come out with it's a scam and the boat was for sale before..
And all the other people who were scammed before finally stepped up..they literally used the same name so if they would have posted it it should come up as a scam..and they would have finally gotten busted

It's a fairly small community...and the scammers need to be weeded out whenever possible

[moatorbotin]

It's a fairly small community...and the scammers need to be weeded out whenever possible

Amen dude!

I found a boat I have been in love with since I first saw it here on scream and fly years ago, (it's changed hands since then, so I don't believe current owner is an S and F member, or at least not a currently active one) did a little research, engine builder told me to proceed with extreme caution, never got the requested pics I was after, decided the engine builder probably wasn't blowing smoke up my ass and stopped pursuing it.......if I ever see anyone looking to buy said boat I'd offer them a word of caution at the least.

It saddens me (and has for years) how many shady people are in our small community.

[mrichartz]

Amen dude!

I found a boat I have been in love with since I first saw it here on scream and fly years ago, (it's changed hands since then, so I don't believe current owner is an S and F member, or at least not a currently active one) did a little research, engine builder told me to proceed with extreme caution, never got the requested pics I was after, decided the engine builder probably wasn't blowing smoke up my ass and stopped pursuing it.......if I ever see anyone looking to buy said boat I'd offer them a word of caution at the least.

It saddens me (and has for years) how many shady people are in our small community.

That sucks!!
Did you ever get any pics of the boat? So we can see it and watch for it

[moatorbotin]

That sucks!!
Did you ever get any pics of the boat? So we can see it and watch for it

Yes, I dug up tons of photo's of the boat.

Here's the thing, I don't know if the guy is a bad dude or not, but coupled with the warning I got from the most recent engine builder, and his inability to follow through with pics I moved on. I don't feel that's enough to throw the guy under the bus or not at this point. He seemed nice enough on the phone, but it wasn't worth the risk/expense of a flight to go check it out, etc.

[mrichartz]

Yes, I dug up tons of photo's of the boat.

Here's the thing, I don't know if the guy is a bad dude or not, but coupled with the warning I got from the most recent engine builder, and his inability to follow through with pics I moved on. I don't feel that's enough to throw the guy under the bus or not at this point. He seemed nice enough on the phone, but it wasn't worth the risk/expense of a flight to go check it out, etc.

Oh ok makes sense ...might just be lazy..lol

[davemvegas]

So you recently learned this good for you..
So your point here is to kick a guy when he's down?
Or were you offering advice for the next time...hope its that..
Lesson learned the hard way there are ****ed up greedy dishonest people in this world just sucks people didn't step up first to say something...he posted/asked about it before then when he got screwed people stepped up saying they got scammed
Allot if people got screwed by these scammers.

Yes... thank you so much for that info, makes me feel much better who im dealing with.
This time i plan on getting all the info requested to the bank (marine survey, purchase agreement, title copies, etc) then drive to view the boat....8 hr away.
If i approve the close the loan at an actual Bank of the West branch.
Still sceptical of wiring the $15,000 down payment.

mirchartz. In your rant i think you overlooked the "still sceptical of wiring the $15,000 down payment"
That is the point i got from "moatorbotin" reply to Tightrig 12. No reason to pay a down payment until you actually buying the boat. Wire 15k to some sellers. Decline on boat purchase after seeing boat in person. At that point the seller may say downpayment is implied buyer agreement. Long process to go thru court is get a 15k judgement that is never going to be paid.

[Tightrig 12]

The boat im buying is still owned by Bank of America. The down payment is the 20% of the purchase price. It will be in cashiers check form made out to Bank of America
Not wiring money to anyone !.......Again !

[mrichartz]

I had talked to B earlier knew he wasn't wiring money this time thats why.
It was just miscommunication etc..
But I can see reading it how it looks like he was going to wire money..






QUOTE=davemvegas;3121075]mirchartz. In your rant i think you overlooked the "still sceptical of wiring the $15,000 down payment"
That is the point i got from "moatorbotin" reply to Tightrig 12. No reason to pay a down payment until you actually buying the boat. Wire 15k to some sellers. Decline on boat purchase after seeing boat in person. At that point the seller may say downpayment is implied buyer agreement. Long process to go thru court is get a 15k judgement that is never going to be paid.[/QUOTE]

[Tightrig 12]

Never heard of them and as far as I know they weren't together at that time however they could have been??? My payments were always written to Bank of the West.

Once loan is processed i will make payments to Bank of the West ad well