Flat Earthers... Just insanity.

**CDave** · 02-22-2019, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by W2F a V-King

I don't know if we went to the moon or not. I want to believe we did, Watched on TV as it was happening.
But if you look at that fragile, really small capsule it does beg that question.

How big would a computer of 1969 have to be to get that capsule there and back. Would it fit in such a small craft? Today sure, but in 1969, early 70's ?

Why is there NO pictures that are in clear focus of the "junk" we left on the moon. The Hubble telescope could surely read a newspaper at that distance, and yet all we have is vague out of focus images.

Or at least I haven't seen any and several years ago I did search. I found nothing.

Watch this.

**FMP** · 02-22-2019, 10:32 PM

**powerabout** · 02-23-2019, 07:22 AM

Russians only pick on Americans because they are so gullible...

**XstreamVking** · 02-23-2019, 08:46 AM

Power, I expect that from fmp. Don't you be jealous of the USA too. I have already posted proof that the govt used geoengineering in the 60's. Do you think they stopped? Don't be so quick to dismiss what you don't understand. You have traveled around, seen a lot. Do you know it all? Do you know for certain and can prove that geoengineering isn't factual?

**FMP** · 02-23-2019, 09:34 AM

What! LOL

**Scream And Fly** · 02-23-2019, 10:24 AM

The really bizarre thing about that 'documentary' is how several members of that flat-earth society claim to be scientists, yet nearly all of them say that scientific evidence debunking their flat-earth beliefs (note I don't say theories) is universally part of a great conspiracy, perpetuated by all schools and universities, and by the scientific community. And yet, applying an absolute blanket statement like that without any research whatsoever breaks one of the most basic tenets of being a scientist, which is never to apply bias or personal beliefs to results. It's all such a ridiculous joke. I'm half-tempted to visit one of their conventions someday. Just ridiculous.

**LakeFever** · 02-23-2019, 10:29 AM

There was some large scale human behavior testing done by dusting the air and whatnot in the 60's in California is one I can recall. What is the key to consider before worrying about who what where is what powers do you have over your own life? What decisions can YOU make for yourself without coercion or outside influence. It starts there

Then you can wiggle around up/down/left/right until you get yourself convinced of mass manipulation and you have to ask what is the purpose? What is the end goal? Then you have to consider how many complicit agents are required and how to keep all this under wraps. If you go through all that you realize this is the ultimate truth

Some cynics will say that we planned the whole thing. The truth is we’re not that dumb and we’re not that smart."

Don Keough

**CDave** · 02-23-2019, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Scream And Fly

The really bizarre thing about that 'documentary' is how several members of that flat-earth society claim to be scientists, yet nearly all of them say that scientific evidence debunking their flat-earth beliefs (note I don't say theories) is universally part of a great conspiracy, perpetuated by all schools and universities, and by the scientific community. And yet, applying an absolute blanket statement like that without any research whatsoever breaks one of the most basic tenets of being a scientist, which is never to apply bias or personal beliefs to results. It's all such a ridiculous joke. I'm half-tempted to visit one of their conventions someday. Just ridiculous.

It is scary that in the era we live in people are gullible enough to believe this stuff. I know when I was younger I believe a conspiracy or two until I realized how many people have to keep the secret. Look at all the leaks in our government and to think any large conspiracy would last more than a year or two before leaks started is foolish.

Look at global warming, all the manipulation of test data was leaked. That shows other conspiracies shouldn't be able to keep secrets from being leaked.

**LakeFever** · 02-23-2019, 05:28 PM

If your worried about mass manipulation the last place to look is in the skies or in some theory. Look at all the data use/abuse going on, no conspiracy there its a full court press right now

**AZMIDLYF** · 02-23-2019, 07:32 PM

Oh, the cross that our evolved species has to bear...the ability to REASON. It definitely has its pluses...but oh the minuses.

**powerabout** · 02-23-2019, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by XstreamVking

Power, I expect that from fmp. Don't you be jealous of the USA too. I have already posted proof that the govt used geoengineering in the 60's. Do you think they stopped? Don't be so quick to dismiss what you don't understand. You have traveled around, seen a lot. Do you know it all? Do you know for certain and can prove that geoengineering isn't factual?

Sure the technology is available and crops get sprayed, agent orange was sprayed so you could distribute any number of chemicals this way.
Pump gas is geoengineered to help clean the environment, lead gone, USA uses alcohol, Europe/Asia uses MTBE.
But to make the jump that condensation trails on aircraft have chemicals in them after going through the engine is a huge step.
You only see condensation trails when the dew point allows it to happen, thats what makes the con trail loonies look silly when thousands of planes fly in an area and there are no trails.

Who is making the chemicals, who is paying for them, any samples?
Where are the tankers coming from the secret chemical plants then going to the refineries to mix in the jet fuel
Must need thousands of people involved all over the USA yet no evidence, nobody speaking out.
Are foreign passenger planes being refueled in flight just to drop chemicals when the reach the USA?
What happens to foreign flights leaving the USA, they get special non American fuel?

PS you cant prove something is not happening only that it is.

**XstreamVking** · 02-24-2019, 07:43 AM

OK, so I will do the work for you.. Would you believe the govts own studies? Lot of reading, but if you want to know.....
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...1hhrg53007.pdf

This is a laymans presentation for the topic by reputable scientists...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd2jA0lT8N0

Deny much?

**W2F a V-King** · 02-24-2019, 09:40 AM

Well be glad that AOC is working to pass her green deal...No more jets flying to spread those chemicals

**XstreamVking** · 02-24-2019, 10:24 AM

Paris climate accord pullout by the US, Trump knew. Where does the money go? No one knows. This is where the conspiracy begins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUT-p2so_k4

**W2F a V-King** · 02-24-2019, 11:15 AM

I couldn't be happier President Trump pulled us out of that.

IMO the internet is a good and bad thing, either being determined on how it's used. Great source of information we would not have without it. S&F is a good example of this. (Thank you Greg!)

Also the internet is an enormous source of misinformation we could do better without.

How long have we (science) been keeping accurate records of "climate change"? Is what's happening been happening all along?