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    If you own agricultural land you get a pass on the code, for a barn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemer View Post
    Pretty much any vertical structure in the state of Florida needs to be signed/sealed.
    Did not know that. In Illinois you submit plan to zoning officials and they say yes or no. Considering the retarded people that think they can build up here maybe your way is best.

    I am beginning to think we are talking about different meaning for "pole barn". I built a 50 x 108 to start with. Attached horizontal
    2x6 to the exterior on 32" centers and attached steel to the 2x6s. 14' sidewalls netting an interior ceiling height of 12" 6". Then added a 32x40, a 27x80, a 16x32, and finally a 28x85. Initially the apartment was just a 24x50 but eventually added a loft that we used as our bedroom converting the original bedroom and office into my billiards room. All of the apartment walls are unattached to the exterior walls. Pole buildings move a bit and I am high on a hill and it gets real windy at times. Attachment to main structure would result in cracking drywall. Inside all the shop areas I attached hat channel to the poles on 32" centers and lined the majority with white steel. Walls hold about 8" insulation whereas most of the ceilings have over 2' of insulation. Building is 35 years old now and we have had 5 tornados with one of them within about 60' of the building.

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    The structure will need to meet the Florida Wind Code [for Hurricanes, I think 105 MPH inland] and will require a Structural Engineer [P.E.] to provide a sealed set of Drawings and the Wind Load Calcs to get a permit. Without a permit, you might have to tear it down, Can't Insure it, Can't sell it. The cost to have this done is very reasonable and your structure won't blow away....The slab will have to be thick/heavy enough to offset the uplift of the roof.


    Even with a Structural P.E.'s sealed Drawings, I had to make 5 trips to Building and Zoning here to get a permit for my 22' unsupported /cantilever 2-car carport with a concealed internal tubular [4" x 8" x 3/8"] steel horizontal frame. The structural wind code at the time was 115 MPH and it met it, but the Plan Reviewer had never seen a 22' cantilever without any front or side supports.


    It has been there for 13 years and survived several strong hurricanes and one tornado [during Irma].

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    Quote Originally Posted by XstreamVking View Post
    Haha 1st hot summer the tar weeped out of the posts and puddled on the ground around the posts. If you chainsaw the posts DO NOT let the chips get on you. They will leave a mark. I am not sure you can get the creosote posts anymore....I built mine 30 yrs ago myself from scrounged materials.

    U dang sure can get em and let me tell u , ate my ass up for days setting and cutting then thangs, won't do it again

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    JR in JAX , Now that is the kind of info i was looking for, thanks.


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    Call John Ciffoie at the Putman County Bldg. Dept. He's the new Bldg. Official for Putman County. He was formally with Green Cove Springs and also spent 10+ years here at the City of Fort Lauderdale. Great guy and a boater(bass fishing). Tell him you spoke with Bruce from the City Of Ft. Lauderdale. I also have property on the St Johns in Palatka, east side. It's a great area and the boating is year round!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rock View Post
    I have seen many open wall sheds built with poles but I have no idea how you could possibly build a straight building with round poles. I have never seen any pole that was not tapered. Trees are bigger at the bottom than the top. With that being said how is it possible to build anything plumb and straight with tapered poles? I am not trying to criticize anybody's methods but as a cabinet maker/builder/machinist accuracy has always been paramount.

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    Brucestr great info, thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'l Toy View Post
    Never build a wood boat, have you? Throw away the square and level.
    Been into woodworking and boats for over 40 years you would think I had done at least one. Owned one wood boat and owned a 33' Carver that needed some serious help but finished neither and sold em as I bought em.

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