California fires...

[Robby321]

Actually we screwed up the day we came out the safe confines of a cave. Fire is natural, and a must for sustainability. Ya think a forest grows once and thats it? Fire breaks will work in some places, but not CA when ya get 70 mph winds. Need a mile wide long break and ya have no idea where to do it, as aint gonna happen with a fire raging already. I'm quite the outdoors type, love nature, any weather, and done many CC rides on my bike. But ya gotta respect nature, know its power, or it will bite ya in the ass. Been through MEAN storms in Kansas, and that weather the damn best for "power of nature".
Been through Mt St Helens in 1992, 11 years after the mountain blew up. Pic a logging road going out. Cone blew off the the left pic. Damn!

Last visit ( think about 2002?, 21 years later) was seeing a LOT new growth, and 12 foot tall conifers and lots of ground cover as animals. Never looked one bit like before.
Went through the Yellowstone fires 2 years after the Bacon fire..(damn love BACON!) Pic then (? don't remember year)) and later 2006. Lots new growth..
1992..

2018

But ya can't beat CO Rockies for a little camp out at 11,000 feet!

[CUDA]

[QUOTE=gfinch;3091936]First it was Global Cooling then Global Warming now it is Climate Change. I just ask a simple question. There were dinosaurs and woolly mammoths before? Plus the evidence of agriculture above the Arctic Circle.

Three fires last year here Thomas, Alamo and Whittier. The Whittier, we had the bombers flying over and watched them drop from where I live now. I have videos of them taken from my back deck. Solvang Ca.















Heres a tid bit..... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-north-pole-once-was-tropical/












Yeah only 55 million years ago ... how relevant... this is a Joke right

[Chaz]

FMP

Generally no fire truck is going anywhere near the burn or off road.

What day did you sign up for ?

Rather than go off of a "doctored up" story. Listen to what Dr. Patrick Michaels has to say about global ... climate. A non-issue, but a good education none the less for those with the comprehension level astute enough to absorb the true facts.

[Dave S]

Don't know much about fires out there but heard that Cedar trees are an invasive causing the fires?

[AZMIDLYF]

That is all great information, but I have one thing that is missing with it. There isn't one damn thing in this world that isn't money motivated. Who stands to gain by all the Global Warming rhetoric? Hell, seems to me that it is costing us/corporations money. Who is making the money from it?

[FMP]

ATV , if terrain permitting so likely no punky log is going to stop it.

[Robby321]

Don't know much about fires out there but heard that Cedar trees are an invasive causing the fires?

Not sure about that, but interesting! As up here WA many Ceders (have 4 130 footers my prop, Western Reds), one Hemlock, big leaf Maples, Fir mature trees).
But?
What is the most common tree in California?
Some of the other native trees that are common in our area include:

• California sycamore (Platanus racemosa)
• California black walnut (Juglans hindsii)
• Fremont cottonwood (Populus fremontii)
• Oregon ash (Fraxinus latifolia)
• boxelder (Acer negundo)
• gray pine (Pinus sabiniana)
• California white alder (Alnus rhombifolia)I got a old buddy who is a tree arbornist in NorCal.

I got a old buddy who is a tree arbornist in NorCal (SF) for decades, and knows his trees. Retired now and lives in Auburn, 10 miles south my brother and 50/60 miles from Paradise. I'll have to ask him and get the real skinny...Link ceders..

http://www.nwplants.com/business/cat...lseCedars.html

[Robby321]

Another thing here on Ceders. Good woodstove starters, but not firewood as burn too fast, little heat. But they smell good!

[FMP]

Started in this neck of the woods
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumas_National_Forest
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lassen_National_Forest
old growth. Sierra Nevada mixed conifer forests (Coast Douglas-fir (Pseudotsuga menziesii var. menziesii), Ponderosa Pine (Pinus ponderosa), and White Fir (Abies concolor)), Jeffrey Pine (Pinus jeffreyi) forests, Red Fir (Abies magnifica) forests, and Lodgepole Pine (Pinus contorta) forests are the most common types.[6]
http://www.gentryoffroad.com/php/map...lumasblank.jpg

[mrichartz]

That is all great information, but I have one thing that is missing with it. There isn't one damn thing in this world that isn't money motivated. Who stands to gain by all the Global Warming rhetoric? Hell, seems to me that it is costing us/corporations money. Who is making the money from it?

Just to start with Al Gore you know the one who said the ice caps would be gone by now..oh not even going to get started..it's all about making laws to say how it's spent then getting their hands in the till

[Chaz]

Thats great, how many tree's can we name ?

Do they come with an octane rating ?

Go to Drag Race Results or Class Racer and see what the guys who ran the finals in Pomona last week said about the dew point and atmospheric water grain numbers.

Throw in a libtard State gov that stockpiles fuel on the ground in mass quanity ..

FMP

Started in this neck of the woods

When your done picking flowers .... Pick one !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tres_in_Canada

[CUDA]

Please READ, might help.

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-e...lifornia-burns

[FMP]

The number of missing dropped from over 1200 to under 1000. Horrible loss.
We had a similar fire in Alberta , city of Fort McMurray nearly lost. 80000 evacuated, +1.4 million acres burn area , luckily only 2 deaths. Spring, after snow melt. A very dry stretch before things greened up made it spread. Human cause

[Chaz]

Please READ, might help.

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-e...lifornia-burns

The Hill ... Really

Lets try for some facts .5 degree ( thats a *half a degree* ) from then till now

[Robby321]

On this nonsense "managed" forest? Get the rakes out boys. Over 1.6 MILLION acres acres burnt Ca alone these last fires. And 100 to 200 trees per acre forest so "do the math". And would have to be constant as my few trees alone ALWAYS DROPPING SOME STUFF!

Oh wait, its all "climate change"! Like before there was never any wild fires....