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    Hey Gene.....Never flew any boat like what ya did....That post with 444 boat.... that's why ya bones hurt.....And to this thread.....YES 2 men at least......unless your on of the greats.......See my post on off IL racing... Dammm with a Merc 1000......Good time for the hull...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GENE LANHAM View Post
    Hey Dave!! There were some exceptions--our throttleman in the late 60's---was a bungee cord and 'red dot' rev limiters

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    SAY Whaaaat...???!!?!?!

    Check this out. Mercury heard your plight and the new 300R V8 & Verado 400R have Adaptive Speed Control (ASC) which eliminates the need for a throttleman. That's right! Now, your Mercury Outboard is Smarter than YOU!!! When your boat leaves the water, makes a turn or hits a big wave/wake... it can automatically sense the load change and limit the throttle as needed to save the driveline from shock or over-revving.


    Hey Dave---entire

    I wasn't kidding about the 'red dot rev-limiters'-----

    You and I know the reputation of the wonderful-shiftable-triple shaft BP's (BAD)

    But we did run 500 mile races with all four throttles bungeed down!

    I rebuilt all four units after every race--

    Ran entire season--(10 races)--one failure--broken distributor cap while leading the Bahamas 500--for over 400 miles!!

    It did take a lot of maintenance--



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    Gene L...... it's very nice to have a guy like you be able to be here and tell us like it was. That goes for the other guys that were THERE.....in the days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaaaaat View Post
    Went to the offshore powerboat races today in key west. I'm still scratching my head as to why they all run a driver and a throttle man. I can see it in the older open boats where both operators are in standing position, but just don't get it for the canopy boats where there seated. Is it just nostalgia? Are there any other motorsports with more than one operator?
    Can some racers or others in the know chime in and inform me please?
    I came into this discussion a little late

    Brownie (Allan Brown) discussed this years ago

    Offshore today doesn't resemble 'OFFSHORE' of 45+ years ago

    I am proud to be one of the original --****MAN--


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    There is no way that 1 person can accurately monitor gauges, trim, throttle and drive on these new mini courses that make up todays offshore. The old days of racing allowed the boats to spread out but that is no longer the case when you have two and three classes on a short course at once. Two sets of eyes are way better then one when you have boats on both sides of you going into sharp turns as well.

    You need to go for a few laps and it would become clear.

    Joe

    Thanks for for your insight


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    Raced my 24 Skater in the early 90's, when it was ruff, no way one person could do it. We had intercoms and could communicate, constantly talking back and forth. Looking for turn markers and steering was more than a full time job.

    I understand why you would ask this question, a five minute blast down a calm lake, no problem, 90 miles on the great lakes, a whole different story.

    Thanks for bringing it up, it was a nice walk down memory lane!
    Sold the Skater, missing it everyday

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    ...For you offshore buffs - Offshore Cockpit Compilation - https://youtu.be/6mGKWD5O-Nc

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    ...For you offshore buffs - Offshore Cockpit Compilation - https://youtu.be/6mGKWD5O-Nc
    Those guys are so secured in those seats and cockpits, there's no way that having the driving duties split is anything but dangerous!

    Thinking about sharing the operation of a vehicle with another human just gives me the creeps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    ...For you offshore buffs - Offshore Cockpit Compilation - https://youtu.be/6mGKWD5O-Nc
    I watched the entire compilation--there is no way they can use the word 'OFFSHORE'

    You can watch Nick Springgate's video--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_q7oyMK-s

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    link no worky gene

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    the speeds today, is what changes everything. you cant stand up anymore, so NOTHING is the same. N O T H I N G .
    Last edited by FUJIMO; 07-30-2019 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whaaaaat View Post
    Those guys are so secured in those seats and cockpits, there's no way that having the driving duties split is anything but dangerous!

    Thinking about sharing the operation of a vehicle with another human just gives me the creeps.
    If that gives you the creeps then you definitely wouldn't do well in going into the first turn. Its not a "one hand on the wheel moment" I can assure you.

    Joe

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    [QUOTE=GENE LANHAM;3151906]I watched the entire compilation--there is no way they can use the word 'OFFSHORE'

    You can watch Nick Springgate's video--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_q7oyMK-s[/QUOT


    A half mile off the beach on the outer straight and being able to see one end of the course to the other doesn't qualify for off shore? LOL... It does make it easy for the drivers "no more navigator" and great for the spectators. I can remember as a kid waiting for what seemed like forever to see the boats come around on their next lap.

    Joe

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    Offshore nowadays is basically "circuit racing" at best. Spectator appeal and the logistics/liabilities of covering that much race course make it that way sadly.

    This is a great video to show things...
    https://www.facebook.com/GrantsCusto...1897884966605/
    I CAN ALWAYS MAKE ANOTHER DOLLAR, BUT I CANNOT MAKE ANOTHER DAY

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPEROG View Post
    If that gives you the creeps then you definitely wouldn't do well in going into the first turn. Its not a "one hand on the wheel moment" I can assure you.

    Joe
    Both hands on the wheel, unless or was to flick you the bird real quick.

    Seriously I don't get your statement, if there's only one operator then the hand throttles go in the trash. No need to take hands off the wheel

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