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    Is there something wrong with US dairy that I am unaware of? Please explain what quality issues are present

    As for preserving industry? Thats exactly the kind of market manipulations NAFTA was supposed to eradicate by allowing the CONSUMER to choose, not the gov'ts.
    Hydrostream dreamin

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    Quote Originally Posted by LakeFever View Post
    Is there something wrong with US dairy that I am unaware of? Please explain what quality issues are present

    As for preserving industry? Thats exactly the kind of market manipulations NAFTA was supposed to eradicate by allowing the CONSUMER to choose, not the gov'ts.
    Nafta didnt work, all the drugs Americans bought from mexico actually came from Colombia causing a massive trade deficit

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    Legalize drugs and watch the s. of the border countries crumble. Drug money is the cement that holds them up financially.

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    Indeed the drug business is ridiculous. Its wayyyyy too big to simply ignore. People want what they want its not criminal to get high its just dumb. The whole racket on all sides of the drug issue is a mess.

    Forgetting all that for a moment what is the difference between American and Canadian dairy and cheeses? Is there some health issues to beware of or is this rumor snake oil?
    Hydrostream dreamin

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    EVERY MAN HAS TWO LIVES...THE SECOND ONE BEGINS WHEN HE REALIZES THAT HE HAS JUST ONE

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    Good info Az. You see what china does when they can't get their way with trade. The stop allowing our products and businesses. Then whine about us trying to level the playing field. We MUST stop being dependent on chineese products. If we don't buy them, then things will change...You do realize that most of the people that make these cheap products live in sub human conditions and have no rights as citizens. Check the info on line about how the people that make your apple phones are treated. And this is a high end product. An American company shadow overseen by the chinese govt...

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    Look out , here comes the WTO
    https://ca.reuters.com/article/idCAKCN1LR0TM-OCABS
    They fixed us with our domestic content manufacturing rules on solar components.
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    WTO is a joke.... China is just playing with them...They won't conform the any rules. Neither will we...

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    Well the US has used them plenty as the complainant
    https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e...ed=USA&sense=e

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    Countries can complain all you want. No one does anything but what they want to do. It's a waste of time. Trump has said he will remove us from it and is working on doing just that. The big problem for the WTO is that if we discontinue being a member it will more than likely fall apart.

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    If China were to stop all shipments to the US tomorrow you might have a different opinion.
    Getting a balance and rebuilding the lost manufacturing is the goal.

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    Tariffs hurt china WAAAAY more than us. They are in a lose/lose situation and are smart enough to know it....They will shuffle around and stall for a while and then fall in line...

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    They're closing in on 100years of Communism. If they choose, self sufficiency by them can be accomplished. They like the Russian don't need to hold the worlds hand to survive. Just imagine they stopped shipping to the US tomorrow, chaos. They'll continue on as their supreme leader outlined. That's the worst case situation which won't happen because the US doesn't have the capacity to replace those goods without years of preparation. Meanwhile they continue to ship to all other corners of the world. The balancing act continues without indirectly taxing the consumer to swearing, it'll take years.
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    Couple of things. You over estimate the chinese.
    You underestimate the US.
    China can't even feed their own population with what food they produce at present.
    They don't call the US the "bread basket" of the world for nothing.
    You want a sony TV, or food in the kitchen?
    The US can sustain it's population with lots of food and can even export some. Even give some away.
    They can't eat TV's.....

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    The world keeps making a mistake thinking china want a seat at the big table and it will ay fair to be there.
    Chinas dictators just have asian domination and total control of tbeir people as an agenda.

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