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    Quote Originally Posted by rude tim View Post
    Toluene is a great additive. It is not all about octane its more about resistance to detonation.
    Resistance to detonation is the DEFINITION of octane rating, duh

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    Fuel needs energy to make power as well as resistance to knock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark75H View Post
    Resistance to detonation is the DEFINITION of octane rating, duh
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    we need a vid on the small engine that tests octane rating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark75H View Post
    Resistance to detonation is the DEFINITION of octane rating, duh
    You might want to do a little reading on Tolueline before you show your ignorance. F1 use to use it when they had the turbo 4 cylinders. At 100 octane it resist detonation extremely well. Do some reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rude tim View Post
    You might want to do a little reading on Tolueline before you show your ignorance. F1 use to use it when they had the turbo 4 cylinders. At 100 octane it resist detonation extremely well. Do some reading.
    Who cares about it's resistance to detonation. If it has no energy you are not making power. Water has high resistance to detonation but has zero energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    Who cares about it's resistance to detonation. If it has no energy you are not making power. Water has high resistance to detonation but has zero energy.

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    Do a little research on Tolueline, it makes great hp per pound of fuel. The good thing is with 1 gallon per 15 gallons of gas it will do wonders. Ran at 100 % the F1 cars made increadable power using real high boost.

    You can do a little test your self with a new computer controlled car or truck. Put 1 gallon of Tolueline in your car tank with 15 gallons of whatever gas you use. You will feel the difference in power, your knock censor will allow the timing to advance. There is no led or other metals so it does not hurt the cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rude tim View Post
    You might want to do a little reading on Tolueline before you show your ignorance. F1 use to use it when they had the turbo 4 cylinders. At 100 octane it resist detonation extremely well. Do some reading.
    I did some reading on google:

    octane number
    noun
    noun: octane rating

    • a figure indicating the anti-knock properties of a fuel, based on a comparison with a mixture of isooctane and heptane.

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    • toluene 121 107 114
      VP C16 Race Fuel 117 118 117.5



    re knock versus power..

    Perfect example is av gas, has resistance to knock but its not as powerful as other fuels at the same octane rating
    Last edited by powerabout; 04-19-2018 at 04:43 AM.

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    Toluene is awesome just keep nitrates away from it I’m sure you have heard of Tri Nitro Toulene “tnt it’s dynamite “ ac/dc

    sulfer has something to do with benzo acids

    and it’s bad for carbon parts.

    Just about everything has some bad thing.

    The f1 thing was 86% toulene 14 heptane

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    I did some reading on google:

    octane number
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    • a figure indicating the anti-knock properties of a fuel, based on a comparison with a mixture of isooctane and heptane.

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    • toluene 121 107 114
      VP C16 Race Fuel 117 118 117.5



    re knock versus power..

    Perfect example is av gas, has resistance to knock but its not as powerful as other fuels at the same octane rating

    Now we are getting somewhere.

    Lets go back to the original question about additives. When you add Toluene to gas it increases resistance to detonation. A relatively inexpensive way to gain performance. I have used this many times when running 190 pounds compression on an OMC 3liter that turned 8850 rpm and made 389hp. I had a 15 gallon tank I would put 14 gallons of gas and 1 gallon of Toluene.

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    Certainly my last post in the tech section

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    Quote Originally Posted by rude tim View Post
    You might want to do a little reading on Tolueline before you show your ignorance. F1 use to use it when they had the turbo 4 cylinders. At 100 octane it resist detonation extremely well. Do some reading.
    so your going to delete this post?

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    Fuel additives, the new oil thread.

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    How about certain fuels with certain oils with certain additives

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