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03-08-2018, 09:26 PM #76
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03-08-2018, 09:29 PM #77Team Member
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Some of the Canadian copies paid for the rights.
canadian Edition version of Hydrostream
Charger version of STV and SOB
Panther version of Checkmate
maybe more were legitimit, not all were
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Oh yeah Cobra sold tons of these in Western Canada, lots still around. Some folks up here actually call anything of this style a “Cobra-style” boat” lol. There were other copies as well, Vanguard comes immediately to mind. Rick Bitz Of Eagle Fiberglass also produced several performance boats that were “remarkably similar” to more well-known brands.
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03-08-2018, 09:51 PM #79
Way I see it is if'n ya don't pay nothing for R & D. You can afford a better lawyer ...
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03-08-2018, 10:09 PM #80The Historic Photo Master
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Hornet Marine 17 Footer - Donzi Copy - Even used one of the Donzi model names AND letter font - Brilliant -
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03-08-2018, 10:11 PM #81The Historic Photo Master
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The Real McCoy Donzi 18 -
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03-08-2018, 10:22 PM #82
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03-08-2018, 10:41 PM #83
It started out as a SST Sleekcraft
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03-08-2018, 10:49 PM #84
Two very different hull designs, make that three ... I forgot the first picture did not work out , too much stern lift , a few mods and Jimmy Clouser kicked a lot of butt with it. The last picture was the original plug.
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03-09-2018, 08:26 AM #85
Cuda, I like the capsule deck.
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03-09-2018, 09:33 AM #86The Historic Photo Master
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Every Pantera Boat ever made, was a Don Aronow(Magnum/Cigarette) hull copy...
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03-09-2018, 09:39 AM #87The Historic Photo Master
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36' Pantera/Cigarette...
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03-09-2018, 09:57 AM #88
As somewhat of an aside, this whole thread has been about illegally copying boat hulls. It was actually quite easy to do because one could use the hull (or deck) to be copied as the plug to make production boats. And it's been going on pretty much since fiberglass replaced wood as the preferred hull building material.
In other fields - such as the automotive world - copying things was much harder to do - until recently. The ability to digitize just about any object has revolutionized the automotive (and manufacturing) world - and not always in a good way. It is now not only possible, but relatively easy to digitize / copy not only parts of an automobile, but even the entire vehicle. All one has to do is go to China to see this technology being blatantly (and rampantly) used to make cheap knock offs of some fairly expensive automobiles. And the Chinese government and court system basically turns a blind eye to the whole thing. Ah, progress.1992 Progression 22
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03-09-2018, 11:11 AM #895000 RPM
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I got my history from the Sidewinder site forumdisplay.php but yours looks more complete as to hulls and decks. I'll just say thanks to who ever started it all the sidewinders and clones/copies are still some of the best looking boats ever made.
1971 Sidewinder 14 SS w Johnson 90 v-4
1959 Texas Maid Falcon w Mercury Mark 35A
1981 Sylvan Sportster w Johnson 85 v-4
2006 Harris pontoon with a Yamaha 90
1969 Sunfish sailboat
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03-09-2018, 11:23 AM #90
Yrs ago I ran a factory svc center for Makita power tools and had customers buying our parts for their Chinese knock offs. Completely interchangable.
They even copied their catalog. Had a picture of a Makita factory w/their name on it!
Yrs later in the assembly tool sales business, plants were being very restrictive w/plant tours and not allowing cameras.
At that time the big deal was Japanese touring U.S. plants and always had one person in group who remained silent. Those guys were Japanese engineers w/photographic memories.I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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