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12-29-2018, 12:52 PM #286Member
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Sorry also the beam?
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12-29-2018, 02:22 PM #287
The standard hull weight was listed at 3200 lbs. My boat was layed up with AME 4000 epoxy resin which was lighter than the standard layup; so conservatively speaking:
Hull = 3000 lbs
Dry Weight of each motor = 477 lbs (477 X 2 = 954lbs)
96 gallon fuel = 614.4 lbs (96 X 6.4lbs = 614.4 lbs)
batteries = 100 lbs (2 X 50 lbs = 100 lbs)
cabin/cockpit weight guestimate = 300 lbs
rigging/steering = 100 lbs
Total with fuel = 5068.4 lbs estimate
Gary's boat should be very close. I can't imagine there is a big variance between the 25' and 28' Checkmates..
I hope that answers your question! lolLast edited by JUPITER PULSARE; 12-29-2018 at 02:29 PM.
J-Town Hot Boat Team
Barracuda 188CCR/Suzuki 140
Past Boats:
Checkmate 2800SX/Twin Merc 250’s
Checkmate Pulsare 2400/Verado 300
Checkmate Starflite/Merc Pro XB250
Canadian Edition Hydrostream AE-21/Merc 2.5
Checkmate Pulsare 2100/Merc 225Xri
Hydrostream Valero YT Bowrider/Merc 175
Talon T-21/Mercury Racing 2.5 Carb
Sleekcraft ModVP Bowrider/Evinrude 225 Vindicator
Velocity 230/Mercury 454 Magnum
Scout 172 Sportfish/Yamaha 130
SeaRay F16 Jet boat/Mercury SportJet
SeaRay 17' Seville/Merc I/O
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12-29-2018, 03:17 PM #288Member
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Wow that's pretty light,no wonder it's fast for that power...
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12-29-2018, 03:17 PM #289
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12-29-2018, 04:13 PM #290Member
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Yeah wish sometimes my boat wasn't so heavy, but it rides unbelievable in rough water which is what we run in quite often. Only went 70mph with 300xs. 18":sm box with 6" jackplate s
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12-30-2018, 11:06 AM #291
I spent a lot of time/money trying to figure out why my first Sonic kept eating trailer tires.
I was guestimating 4500 - 5000 lbs complete.
Finally towed it across a set of scales (after 4th set of 4 tires) and died when they handed me a slip saying 6600 lbs!
The C class tires gave me 6300 capacity
On my first move to Fla, we used the Sonic as a U-Haul. Cabin was packed (including a 40" TV) to the ceiling and cockpit to the gunnel.
Blew 1st tire before crossing Ohio line, 2 in Ky and 3 rd in Dekalb Ga at 2 AM.
Doh!
I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
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12-30-2018, 11:13 AM #292I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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12-30-2018, 11:14 AM #293Member
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Hahaha that is funny ,Gary. Yeah all I know is I have a slip from Bob Latham that had my boat weighing 10,100 lbs. That was with a cheap aluminum float-on triple axle trailer. No winch post.... Flimsy fenders weighed maybe 1000lbs? 454s Trs drives etc... Standard heavy exhaust,etc... I don't know about fuel load...but going to outboards I wonder the weight now?
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12-30-2018, 11:15 AM #294
A buddy bought a 23 searay laguna center console from a doctor. The guy just wanted to tow it to the keys and the trailer that came with it had a blow out. Left him stranded on alligator ally. He went to Owens and sons by us and had them build a 8lug triple axle 12” i-beam so if something went wrong he could take 4 of 6 tires off and still keep truckin. people say less is more when it comes to trailers more is more
the t-3 trailer really needs Z rated tires it’s been 120+ Behind the cummins I slowed down after picturing the tire blowing the fender off and destroying the boat.Last edited by baja200merk; 12-30-2018 at 11:18 AM.
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12-30-2018, 02:11 PM #295
On a 7 hr trip to Dale Hollow Lake, the Sonic trailer blew a tire that took out the brake lines.
I skidded through several intersections on the remainder of that trip.
I did get good at changing flats though. I could be back on road in 15 mins after blowing a tire.
No, Im not proud of that
The guy that sold me this boat laughed when I asked him about a spare. Said the trailer was new and didnt need one
Found one in his shed and sold it to me for e $50.
The friend that picked the boat up in Long Island for me called to say, "you know this guy sold you a flat spare w/no valve stem right?"
Sumtin about NY and MiamiI'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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12-30-2018, 11:44 PM #296
Man that Bracket looks great,nice work Gary..
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12-31-2018, 08:08 AM #297I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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12-31-2018, 10:41 AM #2985000 RPM
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Beautiful work. Finish looks like a table top.
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12-31-2018, 08:40 PM #299
Any more pictures of that motor bracket
I have a swim/motor aluminum bracket that has 30" of set back, too much
I want to build a bracket that runs the full seven-foot beam 4 inches above the bottom,We have invented the world; WE see
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01-02-2019, 07:51 AM #300
The motor board is two layers of 3/4”, 11 ply Okume w/2 layers of 2 oz mat sandwiched between as glue.
Standard 1/4” ply as side bulkheads.
I slotted the flanges of the platform to allow it to sit on top of motor board bulkheads.
That will be boxed in after insides are glasses.
I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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