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    Quote Originally Posted by EBoesch View Post
    I have twin 300's it needs them. What make are the fixed tabs? What props are you running? My boat will not run in ruff chop it porpoises
    If it porpoises try moving weight around, Cougars tend to like ET props.

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    Let's See Your Cougars-Boats That Is!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    Dual motor boats had the tabs? Bruce had the first outboard 22 and no tabs, rode in it and did not need them.

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    The first photo that I posted above was of my 2003 22MTR with a single 300X and the second photo is of current 22MTR with the twin 300Xs. The tabs were available as a factory option. There was an indentation in the hull where tabs went, so that the tab was flush with the bottom of the boat. My 2004 did not have tabs but the indentation was there. Bruce's boat did not have them but Cougar did make a few changes to their builds over the years or he may not have ordered them when he had the boat built.
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    This weekend. Playing with a Cougar in heat (it was 110f outside). <a href="https://youtu.be/9MwqWLFkEJY" target="_blank">

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    it is boat built in the USA in Kansas with out layup schedules no weights or measures some bow heavy some top heavy some starboard or port heavy all built by trial&Ayr some when sea trialed rolled over nothing compared to cougar boats built is salmon arm bc Canada I whould not want to be in one built in Kansas at high speed very very unpredictable how they handle they don't pack air like boats built in Canada and why they don't they are not balanced one's that were built in USA had nothing to do with cougar tom only thing it was the original cougar company molds no engineering or layup schedules were used how to tell where your boat was built for sure is Canadian built all cougar Toms boats vin start with in the VIN#ZCZ molds were bought buy two guys that wanted to become boat builders one a farmer one a salsa company owner & former checkmate boat rep and the rest is history no longer in business I whould look at set back of engine or outboard has a lot to do with its handling caritaristics also no matter what one does to trim a boat built out of balance it will never be right no matter how many band aids one tries to use its like working on a brand new house built out of square
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    Let's See Your Cougars-Boats That Is!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by flatsix66 View Post
    This weekend. Playing with a Cougar in heat (it was 110f outside). <a href="https://youtu.be/9MwqWLFkEJY" target="_blank">
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    Great video and someone has some drone skills as well. How is the boat running? Let us know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrogasm View Post
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    Great video and someone has some drone skills as well. How is the boat running? Let us know.
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    Hi Gary, We are really enjoying the new boat, really a lot of fun to drive. Mine doesn't have trim tabs but not sure if it needs them, so I am following the previous discussion closely, would they help getting on plane quicker? With the Bravo1 XS 24p prop I haven't yet been much above 81MPH at ~6k, still exploring this limit. Not sure if my 300 has the power for a bigger prop or if going to an over hub type would be better? The SeaStar steering is another area I am concerned with, there is about 3/4" of play in it at the cylinder and turning left at high speed is about impossible, any thoughts? I am going to replace the seal kit and bleed it before going out again.

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    Let's See Your Cougars-Boats That Is!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by flatsix66 View Post
    Hi Gary, We are really enjoying the new boat, really a lot of fun to drive. Mine doesn't have trim tabs but not sure if it needs them, so I am following the previous discussion closely, would they help getting on plane quicker? With the Bravo1 XS 24p prop I haven't yet been much above 81MPH at ~6k, still exploring this limit. Not sure if my 300 has the power for a bigger prop or if going to an over hub type would be better? The SeaStar steering is another area I am concerned with, there is about 3/4" of play in it at the cylinder and turning left at high speed is about impossible, any thoughts? I am going to replace the seal kit and bleed it before going out again.
    flatsix66
    I would suggest you try checking the fluid level and bleeding the steering first because it might be just some air trapped in the lines or it is low on fluid. I put Bob's transom wedges on my single engine boats for a little extra tuck in and I ran the jack plate up to about 5 on the dial and as the boat started to roll over on to plane I would lower it and start trimming. I ran a Mazco RE4 30 pitch and I saw 92 mph on GPS at about 6,200 rpms and there was more there but I never played with the set-up to see if there was any more there. There was about 300lbs of stereo gear in the bow of the boat as well which didn't help. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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    With a 300x on the 22MTR, you should be finding low 90's pretty easily. I've seen 93-94mph in mine with a 300xs and a box stock 26xs prop.

    Finding the correct engine height with the Bob's jack will aid greatly for top end runs. On mine, the jackplate at around 5 to 5.5 lets the prop semi surface and allow for those last few 5-7 mph, while still showing 15-20lbs of water pressure. I only jack the motor up this high when making top end runs. Normal boating its at 1 to 2. At lower levels, there is no difficulty with steering tightness, only when jacked up high and flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatsix66 View Post
    Hi Gary, We are really enjoying the new boat, really a lot of fun to drive. Mine doesn't have trim tabs but not sure if it needs them, so I am following the previous discussion closely, would they help getting on plane quicker? With the Bravo1 XS 24p prop I haven't yet been much above 81MPH at ~6k, still exploring this limit. Not sure if my 300 has the power for a bigger prop or if going to an over hub type would be better? The SeaStar steering is another area I am concerned with, there is about 3/4" of play in it at the cylinder and turning left at high speed is about impossible, any thoughts? I am going to replace the seal kit and bleed it before going out again.
    get a bottle fitting,s and hose as pictured screw in into helm fill make sure you have enough fluid in bottle all times and at the end very little to remove less mess turn wheel left and right many times crack the bleed screws hose on them too ends higher than cylinder ,till all full so you think jack front higher than rear let sit 2/ 3 days air will come out leave bottle screwed in helm do it again i did this with twins after i changed hoses that got damaged steering is tight maybe hair of slop which is normal i mean a hair !
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ID:	418882 Here is a pic of my buds Cougar.
    It is for sale also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwilfong View Post
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ID:	418882 Here is a pic of my buds Cougar.
    It is for sale also.
    Dave that's a 19?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    Dave that's a 19?

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    I will have to ask. It is next door so I can just go check it I guess. Give me a second.

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    He said not sure 19/20

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    Looks like my 19, sits higher in the water than mine. They came 19, 21, 22, 23, 25, and 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    Dave that's a 19?

    Dave

    yes, its a 19. I own it now. A very nice Boat.

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