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08-23-2017, 08:50 PM #1Junior Member
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1983 Sutphen Super Pacer w/ 350 MAG
Hey all, just picked up this '83 Super Pacer and I love the boat. I'm looking to get an idea of what type of speed this boat can handle, and what power it would need to get it there. New to the water world, so bare with me lol
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08-24-2017, 06:21 AM #2Screaming And Flying!
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If this boat is in good shape it can handle anything you can throw at it, or into it. Sutphen builds some tough boats. Post up some pics and show us what you have as a starting point.
83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
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08-24-2017, 10:10 AM #3Junior Member
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08-24-2017, 10:11 AM #4Junior Member
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Thanks, I appreciate the response!
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08-24-2017, 11:28 AM #5Screaming And Flying!
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Nice old boat. The pacers were a classic design that never seems to get old. The boats Richie Sr built were like tanks with plenty of glass and were darn near indestructible. How much power depends on the money you want to spend. New drive, steering and power could cost an arm and a leg at least. A supercharged big block merc performance power package would make the old boat scream. http://www.mercuryracing.com/sterndrives/ I like the 600SCI for a small (haha) single.
83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
Rebuild thread:
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...-it&highlight=
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...cs.&highlight=
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08-24-2017, 01:22 PM #6Junior Member
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Alright, and as far as a drive goes, it's still got a Gen 1 Alpha on it. I've been told they will hold 500-550 as long as you pop throttle out of water and roll on to the power. I would imagine a 350 can be built to make power close to those numbers. Figuring it would be more simple to not make more modifications than needed. Plus Alpha drives are like a dime a dozen.
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08-24-2017, 02:40 PM #7Screaming And Flying!
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Small block, a 383 stroker, 500 reliable hp would be my pick. Low compression and no problem putting a small blower on it. Just get hd internals. Sounds like fun. Seems we just had a member here use a 383 and an alpha? Might give you some pointers.... It was some time back, should have the bugs worked out by now....
83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
Rebuild thread:
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...-it&highlight=
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...cs.&highlight=
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08-24-2017, 05:06 PM #8Junior Member
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That would be awesome! I've got 2 jetskis that run low to mid 80's, so the boat doesn't feel that fast, of course. What type of MPH would you think a 500 HP motor would land me? Just trying to get an idea
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08-24-2017, 05:12 PM #9Screaming And Flying!
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In the hi 70's I would guess. Set up, prop and drive height would be critical. What does it run now with 350 hp?
83 V-King, 96 Mariner, 200 hp ff block 2.5 w/a 28p choppa
We gotta clean this liberal mess up, VOTE TRUMP TO MAGA!
Rebuild thread:
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...-it&highlight=
http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...cs.&highlight=
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08-24-2017, 08:57 PM #10Junior Member
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The prop is a 21 and it is beat up BAD, still GPS'd 60-61. That was trimmed up somewhat. All 3 blades have bends in them and are worn out pretty bad. And it's only 300 HP.
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08-25-2017, 07:36 AM #11Junior Member
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Oh, and that's at about 4,900 RPM's
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08-25-2017, 07:48 AM #12Checkmate 2002 Convincor 270 496 MAG-HO
2003 Cougar 22MTR w/300xs SOLD
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08-25-2017, 08:04 AM #13Junior Member
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Yeah from what I've seen, it isn't so much the power that breaks the drives, it's the torque, hence the need to work the throttle when out of the water and ease into the power. I'm just trying to gain knowledge from all angles!
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