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    APBA - 45SS and SST45


    Until safety cells were mandated for the SST 45 class, I never could understand why 45SS hydros didn't run in SST 45 races (closed course / clock start). Was it because of hull length / weight? Or was it because the stock outboarders would have to pay extra fees and mailings for mixing 2 catagories together? Or, to really stir the pot, why didn't the SST 45 drivers migrate to 45SS to keep using their hulls without safety cells? To keep stirring the pot and tipping it over, why didn't somebody in 45SS try to run in D Stock? I'm sure that Merc and OMC people on the tech committees took careful steps to assure that would not happen (voting).
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    Until safety cells were mandated for the SST 45 class, I never could understand why 45SS hydros didn't run in SST 45 races (closed course / clock start). Was it because of hull length / weight? Or was it because the stock outboarders would have to pay extra fees and mailings for mixing 2 catagories together? Or, to really stir the pot, why didn't the SST 45 drivers migrate to 45SS to keep using their hulls without safety cells? To keep stirring the pot and tipping it over, why didn't somebody in 45SS try to run in D Stock? I'm sure that Merc and OMC people on the tech committees took careful steps to assure that would not happen (voting).
    When I proposed the SST45 it started out for hydro use, but the Stock Outboard commission said it was too fast & if I wanted to go fast to continue running the OPC & pro stuff. Three years later the motor was approved but on tunnels

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    Too Fast?.................For Who?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Schubert View Post
    When I proposed the SST45 it started out for hydro use, but the Stock Outboard commission said it was too fast & if I wanted to go fast to continue running the OPC & pro stuff. Three years later the motor was approved but on tunnels
    Too fast for the current D Stock owners? (LOL) I would like to have seen a good run off between a D Stock and 45SS hydro........

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    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
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    This is/was another of the few perfect classes.

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    I have a funny feeling we know this driver pretty good at this thread.
    Congratulations

    CAMBELL JENKINS, A LOCAL RACER GETTING PODIUM FINISH (THIRD) IN THE SINGAPORE ASIA POWERBOAT CHAMPIONSHIP POLE POSITION - DAY 1 (6 DEC 2019).

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    Lars, All, I ask this question with the deepest respect for you guys. You've spent a lifetime on the edge and competing at the highest level to promote the OMC Brand. Thank for all the photographic and video memories -

    I've always been a huge Johnson/Evinrude fan having owned 26 different OMC outboards over the last 40 years. While they were extremely reliable, recreational outboards, OMC dealerships could not supply my Hi-Performance needs. Why didn't OMC offer alternatives to the 2.4L Bridgeports with factory CLE's or the even hotter 2.5L Mercs with factory Sportmaster gearcases?

    My first Allison years ago was sold as the world's fastest bassboat - a XB2002. Unfortunately, OMC did not sell anything close to a 15" short-shaft, 350 pound V6 ProMax Mercury outboard with Sportmaster gearcase and 95+ mph right out of the box. Even in 2010, you could walk into any Hi-Po dealership and purchase a 280 horse or even a 311 horse, 10,000 rpm 2.5L V6 for drags. Why didn't OMC offer their own high performance options for us loyal customers? The old Stingers of the early/mid 1970's are the last of what I remember as factory competition machines. I don't know of any factory OMC ever made for 85+ operation out of the box.

    Respectfully, Gordon
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    Gordon,
    In the eighties Second Effort sold Limited Edition V6 and V8 outboards and later OMC supported engines for SST60 and SST45.
    BRP is at this time not interested in performance outboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
    I have a funny feeling we know this driver pretty good at this thread.
    Congratulations

    CAMBELL JENKINS, A LOCAL RACER GETTING PODIUM FINISH (THIRD) IN THE SINGAPORE ASIA POWERBOAT CHAMPIONSHIP POLE POSITION - DAY 1 (6 DEC 2019).

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    Provisional pole in morning then lost it in second session.
    Then won one race, ended up 2nd overall.
    I am well proud of myself, look at the competition...
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    Paris 1982.

    The year is 1982.. Paris 6 Hours was run in a different format.
    2 X 1,5 Hours and I did the race without a co-pilot.
    I had a perfect day and won both 1.5 hour races in the white #90 F-3 Burgess powered by Evinrude CC..
    (boat # 90)

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    Sunset For OMC Hi-Perf

    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
    Gordon,
    In the eighties Second Effort sold Limited Edition V6 and V8 outboards and later OMC supported engines for SST60 and SST45.
    BRP is at this time not interested in performance outboard.

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    Even 2nd Effort was not directly tied to OMC (off-spin at best). Jack Leek made it perfectly clear that OMC's racing was for product development and never really for consumer production . What's left of OMC's Hi-Perf effort resides with SeaWay Marine (Seattle WA). SeaWay also bought whatever was left of OMC's European racing inventory (Velden). I'm amazed to see that Mercury somehow continues today with some form of hi-perf stuff with their Verado and V8 Four Strokes. (Yes, Merc finally stepped up to a V8...……...30 years after OMC did). At least the Europeans have managed to adapt production 4 strokes to racing hulls and kept on racing whereas the Americans flat out quit.
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