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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    What eventually happened to these OE/SE boat and motor set ups?
    One of the boats with motor was in the warehouse at the Ralph Evinrude Test Center for years.

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    Bill & Jimbo Together - Kind Of A Dark Omen

    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    I have a near identical shot with Bill and Jimbo chatting in the same seats.
    Bill and Jimbo were involved in the last era of pre-safety cockpit racing. Bill was killed in Mexico (blow over) while Jimbo escaped near death by stuffing a non-safety cell boat at Sacramento CA in 1985.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMCAllTheWay View Post
    One of the boats with motor was in the warehouse at the Ralph Evinrude Test Center for years.
    Thanks and welcome to this thread OMCAllTheWay..I love your log in name.

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    I remember both very well.

    I remember Bill saying he didn’t like driving the newer cabovers either.
    He was one of my hero’s and probably the best spokesman for boat racing of all time.

    I was in shock when he was killed.
    To me he was larger than life and would live forever.

    Was equally distraught over Jimbos accident too for the exact same reasons.

    Neither one have ever been replaced.

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post
    Bill and Jimbo were involved in the last era of pre-safety cockpit racing. Bill was killed in Mexico (blow over) while Jimbo escaped near death by stuffing a non-safety cell boat at Sacramento CA in 1985.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    Like new for sale by Javier Reveron.

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    Last edited by lars strom; 12-10-2019 at 09:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
    Like new for sale by Javier Reveron.

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    Amazing

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    Hi Lars
    Do you know where the uim class letters came from oe on oz etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    Hi Lars
    Do you know where the uim class letters came from oe on oz etc?
    Well..not sure what you mean but for example..UIM SE - S was for sport (some rules for the boat and production outboards) and E for the cc between 700 to max 850cc..UIM OE was O for no rules and E for 700 to max 850 cc.
    Same with UIM SD and OD..but less cc.
    Same with UIM OA-OB-OC etc..all Konig hydros back then with no rules only minimum and maximum cc.
    UIM ON was no rules boat or engine but between 1500 to max 2000cc
    UIM OZ was no rules and unlimited everything.
    Must be outboards in all the classes above.
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    UIM Production Criteria

    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
    Well..not sure what you mean but for example..UIM SE - S was for sport (some rules for the boat and production outboards) and E for the cc between 700 to max 850cc..UIM OE was O for no rules and E for 700 to max 850 cc.
    Same with UIM SD and OD..but less cc.
    Same with UIM OA-OB-OC etc..all Konig hydros back then with no rules only minimum and maximum cc.
    UIM ON was no rules boat or engine but between 1500 to max 2000cc
    UIM OZ was no rules and unlimited everything.
    Must be outboards in all the classes above.
    What were UIM production criteria in terms of units built?

    The APBA had this laughable rule regarding outboards that they had to be capable of being bodily (human) lifted from the transom. (LOL) Trying do that with a 400+ lb 4 stroke these days? Only thing I saw that came close to this rule was 2 people with a pipe and lifting eye taking V6 powerheads off. I never saw anybody trying to do this with OMC V8s either.

    Only the Mod U APBA class essentially allowed you to experiment and tinker with stuff. Even the MOD and Formula classes had some form of constraints. I used some classes of racing to "test" things because of race site rescue personnel being handy (I couldn't afford to buy a "Lake X") and even offered to sacrifice my points just to run and collect data. When my co-racers couldn't stop complaining about even those concessions, it started to become easier to stay home and start selling equipment.

    The engine claimer rule was a great idea for the stock classes because I was amazed at the great lengths some racers went to stretch the production engine technical rules.

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    45SS or sale

    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
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    Hello Lars,
    I'm interested. Call or text two four 8 - seven seven 0 - six eight nine 7. Thanks!
    Tim

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    Always wanted to put a 45ss on a fliver boat Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimK View Post
    Hello Lars,
    I'm interested. Call or text two four 8 - seven seven 0 - six eight nine 7. Thanks!
    Tim
    Hi Tim,
    I did see the Johnson SST-45 for sale on FaceBook and I think this link is to the seller.
    https://www.facebook.com/javier.reveron.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterZebra View Post

    What were UIM production criteria in terms of units built?
    Thats a very good question..if I remember right the outboard factories was suppose to build 1,200 units of a specific outboard model to be approved by UIM as a standard production outboard legal in the SE class.
    Back around 1970 both Konig and Carniti built the SE class outboards below but we all know at that time they where not even close to 1,200 units.
    UIM change the rule and the factory must promise to build 1,200 units over a few years.
    OMC started doing the same thing 1973 with the 65SS..Merc followed by the 650 XS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TimK View Post
    Hello Lars,
    I'm interested. Call or text two four 8 - seven seven 0 - six eight nine 7. Thanks!
    Tim
    Hi again Tim..
    I guess the seller have three new SST-45. Please contact him direct if you are interested.
    Not sure how this Whatsapp works.

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    Hi thank Lars. My WhatsApp +584249647192

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