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    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
    ... more #9 Scotti-Craft from Italy May 1973. Ceasare Scotti in the cockpit.
    Evinrude Super Strangler V4 1632 cc cross-flow.

    Interesting nose on that boat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark75H View Post
    Interesting nose on that boat
    Yes, and this Scotti-Craft raced by Cesare in Sweden have a similar nose if you look close.

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    Pretty sure Johnnie Sanders Havasu 1972 winning Scotti although not pickle-forked it also had some 'deck relief' up front...but different from Cesare's shown in these pictures.

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    Scotti 'Per-PickleFork"

    Quote Originally Posted by peterse90 View Post
    Pretty sure Johnnie Sanders Havasu 1972 winning Scotti although not pickle-forked it also had some 'deck relief' up front...but different from Cesare's shown in these pictures.
    I think Scotti hulls were on only builders who experimented with "Pre-Pickleforks". One of these hulls showed up several years later in the Seattle WA area (Barry Woods hand-me-down to one of the locals here).

    Only other time I have seen "Pre-pickleforks" was during the V8 era. I think Hodges, Molinari and Jenkins were trying to get a "front wing" to work. Unlimiteds managed to get front and rear wings to work but they don't have power trim like outboard tunnels do.

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    Look at the front of Jimbos boat. Paris 1972

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    I wonder if having the opening in the nose actually shortened the airfoil giving it a more pronounced airfoil shape with more vertical lift...I can't see it giving less lift. I always thought the pickle fork design was to give it less bow lift.
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    Sad news from Italy.

    Italian news sources are reporting tonight that 3 people have lost their lives during a Monte Carlo to Venice speed record attempt.

    The accident occurred around 21:00 CET outside the harbour in Venice.
    The incident, which happened in darkness, occurred in front of the the ‘Lunata’, an artificial dam made of large boulders which are on the seabed.
    The families of the deceased have not as yet been informed.



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    È con profondo, sentito, sincero dolore che diamo notizia del grave incidente accaduto stasera all'imbarcazione di Fabio Buzzi nel tentativo di record Montecarlo Venezia. Il mezzo a circa 80 nodi si è schiantato sulla lunata di protezione del MOSE della bocca di porto di Venezia Lido. Purtroppo per 3 dei 4 componenti dell'equipaggio non c'è stato nulla da fare, Fabio Buzzi - in foto - e due piloti inglesi sono morti. Dell'unico superstite, Mario Invernizzi, non si conoscono al momento le condizioni. I cronometristi del record, tra i quali il nostro consigliere di Venezia Gianni Darai, non hanno potuto fare grandi cose per il soccorso se non avvisare le forze di polizia e il 118. La barca all'impatto sugli scogli si è impennata e ha saltato la barriera, affondando dalla parte opposta. Un gravissimo lutto colpisce lo sport italiano e la motonautica intera. Tre uomini esperti, appassionati di mare e di velocità ci lasciano in un atto che resta parte dello sport pur nel suo tragico epilogo. Fu così purtroppo per altri campioni della motonautica mondiale. Tra questi Stefano Casiraghi ed il Conte pietrobelli. Alle famiglie, ai team, al Presidente Fim Vincenzo Iaconianni e al Presidente Uim Raffaele Chiulli giungano le più sentite condoglianze da parte di Assonautica Italiana.
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    It is with deep, felt, sincere pain that we give news of the serious incident happened tonight at the boat of Fabio Buzzi in the attempt to record Montecarlo Venice The middle of about 80 knots crashed on the protection of the Moses of the mouth of port of Venice Lido. Unfortunately for 3 of the 4 crew components there was nothing to do, Fabio Buzzi - in photo - and two english pilots died. Of the only survivor, Mario Invernizzi, you don't know the conditions at the moment. The keepers of the record, among which our advisor of Venice Gianni give, could not do great things for the rescue if not warn the police forces and 118. The boat to impact on the rocks has wheelie and skipped the Barrier, sinking on the opposite side. A serious mourning affects Italian sport and the whole powerboat. Three experienced men, sea and speed enthusiasts leave us in an act that remains part of sport pur in its tragic epilogue. It was so unfortunately for other world powerboat champions. Among these stefano casiraghi and count pietrobelli. To the families, the teams, the fim President Vincenzo Iaconianni and the president uim raffaele chiulli get the deepest condolences from Italian Assonautica.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanUmbarger View Post
    I wonder if having the opening in the nose actually shortened the airfoil giving it a more pronounced airfoil shape with more vertical lift...I can't see it giving less lift. I always thought the pickle fork design was to give it less bow lift.
    Correct, the picklefork moves the center of lift back and the center of weight forward for balance of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lars strom View Post
    ... more #9 Scotti-Craft from Italy May 1973. Ceasare Scotti in the cockpit.
    Evinrude Super Strangler V4 1632 cc cross-flow.

    Had one but had Macdonald at the Naples, FL test station fill them in. I did drive the boat in Parker with Muncey as go- driver. It’s the boat in my Avatar at Parker. Same boat in previous picture with Ron Hill driving.Could have won but steering problems Did finish third. There were 2 others in Waukegan that Jimbo thought needed the slots filled, they did & were the first Rotary boats. Personally I think it was better with the slots. Yes, Sanders was a different version boat, kind of fatter with deeper slots.

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    Very sad news... An absolutely tragic loss. Buzzi was a true innovator on so may levels. I don't think genius is too strong a word...

    My prayers go out to his family and those of his shipmates.
    Cheers,

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    My 1973 red UIM SE class Clerici was a regular full front design.
    My 1974 yellow UIM SE class Clerici was a pickle fork design and about 15 MPH faster than the 1973 boat. Mostly because of the much better engine from OMC..but the Clerici boat design was also much better.

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    The Fabio Buzzi accident last night.

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    The Buzzi boat.
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