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11-28-2021, 01:35 PM #9196
Jonas is building his own boats, building his engines, running his own team. He deserved this world F1 title after 15 years of trying..
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11-28-2021, 03:40 PM #9197
Jonas and his Team Sweden.
https://svera.se/blogg/team-sweden-j...orld-champion/
Last edited by lars strom; 11-28-2021 at 08:21 PM.
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11-28-2021, 05:25 PM #9198
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11-28-2021, 05:32 PM #9199
When do they change to the Merc 4 strokes Lars?
I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
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11-28-2021, 07:33 PM #9200
Well..I am not the right person to ask that question....but here is the rumors I have heard..
The current race boat in UIM F1 can not be used for the new top heavy Merc 4 stroke V8 APX 360
A wider, larger different designed boat is the only way to do it.
That boat does not fit in the shipping containers..
Next issue is the new 4 stroke V8 engine is not as fast as the current V6 on a total lap time..new rules to ban the 2 stroke must be enforced.
Extremely high cost to the teams already struggling with sponsorship.
The last two races in Portugal was not organized by the normal F1 promotor..!!
There is no race calendar as of today for next years UIM F1..only a rumor of a race in Saudi Arabia.
I could be wrong about all this but its an answer..Last edited by lars strom; 11-29-2021 at 10:25 AM.
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11-28-2021, 11:10 PM #92016000 RPM
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They need to drop the powerhead down to sit on top of the gearcase like the rotaries did 50 yrs. ago. Charlies bucket patent has long since expired. Or they could lay it down and pretend it's an outboard like Jackie did.
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11-29-2021, 09:20 AM #9202
Well..OMC designed and built the 6 inch mid section for the racing V8 early 1985..lowering the power-head 6 inches made a hug difference.
Way better boat handling..compare to the top heavy 12 inch mid section.
To bad OMC did not have the 6 inch mid section for Bristol 1982..!!..
If I understand it correct..the new Merc 4 stroke racing V8 must have a 12 inch mid section because its a gearbox between the powerhead/gearcase.
Good luck with that..!!
PS..Dont mix up US F1 with UIM F1..in the US F1 the plan is to use a V6 4 stroke APX 200..UIM F1 the V8 4 stroke APX 360
First picture is from the OMC parts book of the 6 inch mid section
Second is the F1-V8 with the 6 inch mid section
Third is the top heavy 12 inch F1-V8 used the first couple of years.
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11-29-2021, 11:47 AM #92036000 RPM
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The rotary bucket had about 2" between the bottom of the powerhead and the gearcase. It's CG was actually lower the V-4 and the V-6. If you look at the old pictures you see the top of the rotary on the boat was lower than the top of V-6. You would have thought Strang and the boys would have learned from the rotary (10 yrs earlier) and used the shorter mid from the start.
Last edited by Rotary John; 11-29-2021 at 11:49 AM.
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11-29-2021, 01:01 PM #9204
Well..the 6 inch mid-section was not possible with the carburetor power-head..Only with the fuel injection.
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11-29-2021, 01:59 PM #9205
Another fact is..
Mercury is the only outboard in racing and have been so for many years.
I remember when Mercury was criticizing OMC for the F1-V8 racing saying things like..who wants to sponsor a series with only one manufacturer..!!
Here we are..20+ years later..Mercury still in a similar situation..no sponsorship for the teams..(only one outboard factory)
US F1 NGK series & Tim Seebold is working extremely hard to promote the sport..and build a future.
I really wish him well/great.
The much faster UIM F1 series based in the Middle East are having the same problems..No major sponsors..
The two Middle Eastern multi boat teams are dominating with state sponsorship.
Yesterday in Portugal only 14 boats started..some big names like Chiappe & Erik Stark was missing..(Erik from no sponsor)
The Swede Jonas did the unthinkable and got the gold..I think it was karma from when he lost the championship last time (2019) No racing 2020
The UIM F2..(similar to US F1 Optimax 200XS) have a lot of up to date boats & drivers but not many races.
Very hard to get races going in Europe for many reasons..Economy & permits..(the green people are a problem)
Tunnel-boat racing all over the world..long before Covid are struggling because its not a very popular sport.
Brunswick..by far the largest marine corporation in the world could make tunnel-boat racing great again by stepping up with sponsorship from all the marine companies they own..
Think about Sea Ray, Boston Whaler, Freedom Boat Club, Intrepid Boats, Mercury Marine, Lowe, Swedish Uttern Boats, Bayliner, Attwood, Princecraft, Harris Pontoons, Lund and many more..
The problem is..Brunswick does not want to do so..
We all know why....!!
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11-29-2021, 04:00 PM #92066000 RPM
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11-29-2021, 07:21 PM #9207
UIM F1 World Champ Jonas Andersson got a warm "Welcome Home" in his little home town Frövi, Sweden.
Only problem..freezing cold..12 degree F...
Team Sweden – Jonas Andersson 2021 UIM F1 World Champion
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11-29-2021, 10:33 PM #9208Screaming And Flying!
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In road based motor sport the old classes seem to be growing everywhere....
Is that because manufacturers dont have and cant get control?
IMHO a custom 2ltr to 2.5 etec v6 would be the best package for F1 and mostly emission compliant.
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11-30-2021, 12:06 AM #9209
Great point about the shipping container Lars.
That would be a tough hurdle to get over.
A friend in Fla made it sound like Tourente had nothing but good to say about the Merc 4 stroke after testing.I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.
I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.
Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II
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11-30-2021, 10:54 AM #9210
More from the little village Frövi, Sweden..(population 2,516)
Jonas garage and the lake Väringen he does all the F1 testing at.
So happy for Jonas Andersson.
"Anstalten Hinseberg" you can see in the map picture is a jail for females only..!!..
Team Sweden – Jonas Andersson 2021 UIM F1 World Champion
Last edited by lars strom; 11-30-2021 at 11:52 AM.
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