I Am Looking Opinions On Putting 2 300X Motors On My Cougar 22MTR!!

**Hydrogasm** · 10-19-2016, 02:13 PM

As title states I am considering putting a second 300X, which I already have from my last 22MTR that Euroski now owns, so I am looking for opinions either positive or negative on doing this. Both motors are 20" O/S models and the 2004 currently on the boat has about 10 hours on a factory replacement long block and the 2003 will be a fresh re-build. They will have left and right Sportmasters with 1.62:1 gears. I with also reduce the setback and still use 6" Bob's jackplates. There has been only one to my knowledge 22MTR with twin 300Xs on it and it is out in Washington state. If have tried to contact the owner but I have been able to talk to him to get his opinion. Bob Cruse has one with twin 280s on it. My plan is to run HC6345 SeaStar Pro cylinders with a SeaStar Pro tilt helm, wing plates and a tie bar. I live on a small lake and it if the wind picks up, the boat stays on the lift. Otherwise I would have bought Steve's 23MTR. Let me hear your comments on here or by e-mail at garyeisnor@eastlink.ca
Thank you in advance your opinion
Gary

**JerseyChris** · 10-19-2016, 03:31 PM

Not only is the added weight a concern but is the boat structurally sound for twins? That is a lot of weight hanging off a 22 ft boat

**Hydrogasm** · 10-19-2016, 04:48 PM

JerseyChris
The transom is solid with bracing into the stringers according Bob Cruse who has the twin 22 and had a single engine 22, the construction was the same on both boats. Keep the feedback coming.
Thanks
Gary

**Spectre Powerboats** · 10-19-2016, 06:47 PM

The transom will need modified for twin 300x motors. Take it to a pro and have it done right.

**native2** · 10-19-2016, 06:51 PM

Do it..... That bitch will be bad ass. You only go around once. Make it count......

**Spectre Powerboats** · 10-19-2016, 08:38 PM

Two knee braces are not enough for 280's and definitely not enough for 300s on a Cougar.

**Hydrogasm** · 10-19-2016, 09:02 PM

Todd
I was planning to do some extra bracing. I would appreciate your input if you want to e-mail me your thoughts directly at garyeisnor@eastlink.ca
Thanks
Gary

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Screaming Eagle Boats
Two knee braces are not enough for 280's and definitely not enough for 300s on a Cougar.

**jpf091959** · 10-20-2016, 12:01 AM

I don't know about a Cougar, but my Eliminator 22 handled twin 300xs' real good. It planes quick and runs just great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKKH8V12x2U

**Hydrogasm** · 10-20-2016, 08:43 AM

jpf091959
You have a great looking Daytona. How fast does it run with the twin 300XS motors? It looks like the transom has aluminum or stainless steel plates for extra support. How many 22 Daytonas did they build with twins? I like the 1/4 canopies as well.
Thanks
Gary

Originally Posted by jpf091959

I don't know about a Cougar, but my Eliminator 22 handled twin 300xs' real good. It planes quick and runs just great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKKH8V12x2U

**Bodhi** · 10-20-2016, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Screaming Eagle Boats

The transom will need modified for twin 300x motors. Take it to a pro and have it done right.

I second this...unless you are well versed in the physics of what this boat will need, definitely have it done. That said....f**k yeah go for it!!!

**jpf091959** · 10-21-2016, 11:28 PM

thanks, my eliminator runs into the low teens often. I rigged the boat and like to mount my oil tanks and stuff to metal and minimize the number of holes drilled into the knees or any where else. I lined my bilge with 3/16" aluminum. I have since dropped the Optima batteries in place of lithium. I save about 100 lbs. I still use optima's for my stereo but not for starting.

I think 115 mph is the best I have seen with both GPS' units. I have seen some suspect readings. I am running 15 x 34 Bravo's I's, they are labbed and ventilated. I hope to order some Hering or Dewald props. this winter.t

I really like to cougars, I think that thing would scoot.

My boat feels real predictable, but I also don't push my luck too far. The Eliminator Daytona 22' are based on the 27' so they are deeper than a cougar and seem to handle the extra weight real good.

keep everyone posted.

Originally Posted by Hydrogasm

jpf091959
You have a great looking Daytona. How fast does it run with the twin 300XS motors? It looks like the transom has aluminum or stainless steel plates for extra support. How many 22 Daytonas did they build with twins? I like the 1/4 canopies as well.
Thanks
Gary

**Hydrogasm** · 10-24-2016, 11:04 AM

Great feedback so far but I would always take more. If you don't want to post here, you can e-mail me at garyeisnor@eastlink.ca with suggestions on how to re-work the transom to deal with the extra weight.
Thanks
Gary

**4Speed** · 10-24-2016, 04:36 PM

Will it be insurable and if so what will it cost you... may want to check.

**JPEROG** · 10-24-2016, 09:24 PM

You might want to consult with Brent "scald the dog". He ran twin X motors on a 20 foot LCB and can tell what you might be in for. It will definitely be a fun piece and will require respect to operate. I had a 24 skater with 3 260s on it so it can't be any worse then it was "acceleration and top end was killer-everything else sucked".

Joe

**Hydrogasm** · 10-25-2016, 08:09 AM

4Speed
I will certainly into the insurance. I have had all my boats insured with the same company for 25 years and the motor that is apart in my garage is fully insured as well but I will check out before I decide to go ahead with the project.

JPEROG
I know that finding a good balance will mean moving batteries, pumps and oil tanks more forward or adding weight up in the bow, this is why I started this thread to begin with to collect ideas from the knowledgeable members on here that have done it before.

Keep the thoughts coming.
Thanks
Gary