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    Also, who here hasn't spent at least 1k for a few horsepower? SVS, Brucato box, High compression heads, etc? I would say 3k for an increase from 260 to 400hp is quite reasonable in terms of the alternatives it would take to do the same by yourself.

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    Jekyll and Hyde motor...few swaps and you have a different set up.
    Euphemisms Justify What the Conscience Condemns

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    Can you explain the Canadian connection. I see most of the replies are Texas. Where is CALDWELL located I'm in Toronto

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsess View Post
    Can you explain the Canadian connection. I see most of the replies are Texas. Where is CALDWELL located I'm in Toronto
    Ok, I'll bite.......
    what makes you think CRT is in T.O.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsess View Post
    Can you explain the Canadian connection. I see most of the replies are Texas. Where is CALDWELL located I'm in Toronto
    caldwell is in ocean springs mississippi and mark is in orange tx

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    I met Matt Caldwell at the show. incredible bunch of guys.

    I can't wait till they release additional info on what's up and coming...very good news for us all!



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    how much was a s3000 long block when you could get them?

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    Why compare anything to a new Mercury block??? Unless you want a fishing motor, 3 liter or 4 stroke there aren't any. I think a NOS Drag block went for $9500 last year. This is an alternative that has not been available AND will probably be like owning 2-3 blocks because of the replaceable sleeves. That is huge.
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    Why compare anything to a new Mercury block??? Unless you want a fishing motor, 3 liter or 4 stroke there aren't any. I think a NOS Drag block went for $9500 last year. This is an alternative that has not been available AND will probably be like owning 2-3 blocks because of the replaceable sleeves. That is huge.
    Dave Hensley

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    2012 200XS ROS ​
    1997 260 w/ blue SVS drop on
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    2003 250 Pro XS Sport
    2005 300X
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerabout View Post
    how much was a s3000 long block when you could get them?
    if u raced with dsra. u could get them at cost(dealer that raced) and it was around $6700 for block and $10300 for rotator and that included top/bottom caps and exaust divider plate and a set of 12" studs my numbers may be a little off but not much and they didnt have many people beating there door down to get them. but i bet u theres several kicking there selfs in the a.. now

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    Dave YOU sold me a complete low fishing hour, Drag 300 Mariner 15" LU and all for less than $10,000
    sometime ago... Still have it
    We have invented the world WE see

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCSmile View Post
    Whoever said horsepower costs money is right. The pucks will be the same cost to produce, but the high horsepower ones will cost more. Every company does this. Why buy a 200 when you can have a 400 for the same price? Also, the 400 pucks also probably required a lot more research in order to make them produce the most horsepower. What was the price difference between a merc 200 and an S3000 back in the 90's? For the most part, they are the same engine in terms of production costs but the one is probably at least double the price. How about the price differences in any of the new 3L or SHO's? Same story there.
    pucks? It takes pennys to make them on cnc, yes pennies. Put those 400hp "pucks" on a 250hp motor and see how much power u make. Compression and squish angle/chamber has nothing to do with the hp . There are 100 things that have to be changed on a 200 block to make it close to a drag. Mercury did their homework and they have run the show for years but now they have "taken their toys out of the sandbox".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUDA View Post
    Dave YOU sold me a complete low fishing hour, Drag 300 Mariner 15" LU and all for less than $10,000
    sometime ago... Still have it
    Yep Jim that was a nice one. That was only what 17-18 years ago? I have a couple more if you need one!!!!! Sold a complete 2005 two years ago that had never been started. It was a little more than $10K!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by baja200merk View Post
    pucks? It takes pennys to make them on cnc, yes pennies. Put those 400hp "pucks" on a 250hp motor and see how much power u make. Compression and squish angle/chamber has nothing to do with the hp . There are 100 things that have to be changed on a 200 block to make it close to a drag. Mercury did their homework and they have run the show for years but now they have "taken their toys out of the sandbox".

    The real story of the 300 was some Hillbilly's in Tenn. opened things up ... Merc copied

    But yes it is a VERY good design, just tweeked by some country Boyz , to make it better...

    And NOW taken to a whole new level !
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShot View Post
    Yep Jim that was a nice one. That was only what 17-18 years ago? I have a couple more if you need one!!!!! Sold a complete 2005 two years ago that had never been started. It was a little more than $10K!!!!
    Thats a pretty good deal, seem to recall price on a 96 Pro Max was around that number retail in 97.

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