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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt.Insane-o View Post
    Don't be jelly, I've seen plenty of 30 year old Yamaha ignition technology bolted on omc motors
    Well there is a reason for that too! Lol. You got me! Hahaha.

    Until you played with a Link, Emtron, or Motec system, you'd probably think the merc stuff is decent too. I just see the few purchasers of this motor are not in to "decent" electronics that "works". I'd want an exceptional system powering the injectors and ignition with full tuning capabilities. It's worth the extra $.

    Either way I'm hoping to see these up and running in the public's hands. It's been the mythical unicorn for years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Jr. View Post
    Cause there's a LOT better options.....That's all. If someone can afford this rotating assembly, why wouldn't they want full fuel and ignition capabilities in each cylinder with correction? A smart buyer would go that route, not just for performance, but to keep the motor together when things don't go to plan.
    So these wonder new electronics have no issues? And how easy to diagnose? It's electronic it will screw up some time. A basic hot rod 2 stroke I will stick with 40 year old tried and true system, keep it simple. After all most these motors are on off switches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    So these wonder new electronics have no issues? And how easy to diagnose? It's electronic it will screw up some time. A basic hot rod 2 stroke I will stick with 40 year old tried and true system, keep it simple. After all most these motors are on off switches.

    Dave
    These systems are not that new Dave. You obviously haven't looked under any hoods at Jasper. Sorry I offended anyone by thinking this motor is a step in to the future thinking it would have up to date capabilities. Why would someone not want the same capabilities my little ole motor does....
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    any pics of the ECU? Would love to see just the electricals for the motor.





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    Larry you bring up a good point with the electronics , the Mercury system works well up to the 11k range for drag and circle competition racing. Its simple and works. We plan to take it one step at a time with the motors , 2.5 / 3.5 etc. They can be outfitted with the much more advanced fuel management / electronic systems . We have plans to develop a more advanced proprietary fuel system /electrical that has charging and little or no parasitic lose from pumps or compressors. Im not a big fan of total lose ignition systems personally.
    The advanced flywheels and new injectors have helped the older CDI ignition system to a point were its hard to dispute its simplicity ,practicality and success . However the future advancements in this area are coming.

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    Awesome Matt. I figured it is a good starting point especially for spec racing. It is good for simplicity to the average racer. Im just assuming your purchasers will be moreso inclined to like to "tune". One step at a time, im with you on that. Looking forward to seeing your product out on the track soon.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Jr. View Post
    Cause there's a LOT better options.....That's all. If someone can afford this rotating assembly, why wouldn't they want full fuel and ignition capabilities in each cylinder with correction? A smart buyer would go that route, not just for performance, but to keep the motor together when things don't go to plan.
    because they aren’t legal in a majority of race classes would be a good starting point for why,
    and for the most part it is readily availible for hobbiests that already understand the merc electoinics to soap
    them on and go

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    Oh sorry, I wasn't aware that the classes that allow billet blocks had electronics restrictions......You know better than I.
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    I thought Matt bought DSRA ODBA
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    Quote Originally Posted by CUDA View Post
    I thought Matt bought DSRA ODBA
    Better think twice....


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    I think it took Mercury 4 years of promising dealers before they came up with a replacement for the 2.5 225 ProMax. The 225X was a unicorn with old and new technology mixed and no compressor then along comes the Opti. Matthew started from scratch. Put that into perspective.
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    You act like just anyone can buy one of these high end tuning setups and plug and play. 9.9/10 users will do more harm than good with anything other than a stock style system.

    I would however love it if there was a system like we use on race bikes, auto tune basically.
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    The 2 stroke is the issue for lots of ecu makers and no wasted spark.
    There are a few aftermarket guys getting on tbe 2 stroke injected bike scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShot View Post
    I think it took Mercury 4 years of promising dealers before they came up with a replacement for the 2.5 225 ProMax. The 225X was a unicorn with old and new technology mixed and no compressor then along comes the Opti. Matthew started from scratch. Put that into perspective.
    Love what they are doing ( in this small market) and I hope its a huge success but...
    they have made an aftermarket block, have they done anything else?
    Is it cheaper to rebuild?
    Do the cylinders stay round longer?
    Does it make more power out of the box?
    etc
    It may well, we are all just waiting to hear about it.

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