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    Quote Originally Posted by dnelson964 View Post
    Update:

    Since this scorpion handled so well I am going to let my propman cut and work it to see if we can't make it a better runner !
    I have tried a lot of different props and varied set-up back and forth with changing results trying to find the best "overall" for most waters. My fastest speeds have always been with a props that has been 'worked' from stock.... oh, except for one or 2 that were custom to start.

    I now have a few 'go to' props but like testing still because you never know.
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    1990 22' Activator yami OX66 Vmax 250-84.2
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ID:	324148 yep basically the same boat

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    Quote Originally Posted by endabran View Post
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ID:	324148 yep basically the same boat
    You do look similar from here.





    Update....... I am going to pick up the cut down Solas Scorpion today. I was told it measured to 30.5" on the tip and it now has lost 1/2" of pitch on the bottom-middle of the blades. It expect it measures 14.75" dia. now and I'm interested to see how it will perform comparatively to a couple yamaha T1's I have run that have proven to be excellent on my boat.

    So if anyone is looking to buy a new Scorpion rule of thumb is expect they run a 'stiff' 2.5" pitch more out of the box !
    1990 22' Activator Yami HPDI 300-sold-86.4
    1976 21' Challenger 2002 3.1 Yami 250 Vmax phase lll 89.7-sold
    1982 21' Superboat 300merc-87
    1990 22' Activator yami OX66 Vmax 250-84.2
    1982 30' Scarab-twin 200 Merc-sold
    1979 21' Challenger 300 Evenrude-sold
    1979 21' Superboat 200 Merc-sold-72

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnelson964 View Post
    So if anyone is looking to buy a new Scorpion, rule of thumb is expect they run a 'stiff' 2.5" pitch more out of the box !
    Wow, +2.5"!

    Great info, I almost bought one yesterday that would not have worked based on that. Thanks
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    Does the Solas run it's own proprietary hub kit or can you use Flo Torque kits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    Does the Solas run it's own proprietary hub kit or can you use Flo Torque kits?

    It takes a 'Flo torque hub'. I Need that also to run my Fat shaft and yami T1's are only pressed in hubs for standard shafts hence my desire to check into them.

    Here is my now custom cut, 14.75" 28. If you look at the trailing edge cup you can see how steep it is and that is stock ! The area just below the cupping measures 28 pitch and that's how they sell the pitch size. Pitch starts low down on blade as a 26 or less and has alot of rake. Also had 1/8" trimmed off leading edge which also depitched about .5" the low to middle area. Soon see what changes this makes.

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    we will see.....
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    1990 22' Activator Yami HPDI 300-sold-86.4
    1976 21' Challenger 2002 3.1 Yami 250 Vmax phase lll 89.7-sold
    1982 21' Superboat 300merc-87
    1990 22' Activator yami OX66 Vmax 250-84.2
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    well? am i sending my prop to your guy?

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    update...New Cut W/Added 3- 5/8" PVS holes so I can adjust hole shot (take cheap hardware store plastic snap in plugs in 1/2" size to close or drill now for adjustment)

    2 aboard, 3/4 tank fuel.....

    80-82 degrees, 5-10 mph winds,too choppy to run full out however short burst ran 84.5@5600. Bites still very hard still, lift is great, holds nose high with good feel of stern control. (calc. slip around 8.5% for a 30.5 pitch makes most sense). Should be a good top end prop now also just have to do that some other time.

    PVS holes were all open but now too much ventilation, hole shot spun motor spun over to 5500 before bite and grip. I think 3-1/4" holes might be enough now after trimming blades.

    Can't test now for awhile but the cut worked out well. Went 1.6 mph faster@5600 with more weight aboard.
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    1990 22' Activator Yami HPDI 300-sold-86.4
    1976 21' Challenger 2002 3.1 Yami 250 Vmax phase lll 89.7-sold
    1982 21' Superboat 300merc-87
    1990 22' Activator yami OX66 Vmax 250-84.2
    1982 30' Scarab-twin 200 Merc-sold
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    1979 21' Superboat 200 Merc-sold-72

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnelson964 View Post
    update...2 aboard, 3/4 tank fuel.....slip around 8.5% the cut worked out well. Went 1.6 mph faster@5600 with more weight aboard.
    You have to be happy with these results. I'd love to see you throw a totally stock Merc Rev4 on to gather another set of comparative data points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    You have to be happy with these results. I'd love to see you throw a totally stock Merc Rev4 on to gather another set of comparative data points.

    Send me one and I will try it.....
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    D how far back is your motor,i tried 1 3/4 above with 12 inches back and it was to far wouldnt lift the boat.Even to slightly above seems to be the sweet spot

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    Yes lots of experience with them and on my rig they run 2-2.5" stiff. Slip runs 3% so clearly they are under rated on the pitch scale. I stopped blowing my horn on these a few years ago because all I ever heard was "oh they are cheap offshore prop gotta run a merc prop BLa Bla Bla....." I've run them hard for three years never cracked never thrown a blade and fastest numbers on my rig by far. I had my local prop guy drill them for PVS plugs which work great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endabran View Post
    D how far back is your motor,i tried 1 3/4 above with 12 inches back and it was to far wouldnt lift the boat.Even to slightly above seems to be the sweet spot

    Run what 'your' boat likes as it's sweet spot.

    If you run a coned lower w/ low water pick-ups I would guess 3/4"-1.25" tops. If its a torque master then lower of course.

    I run a coned lower and W/Hydraulic Jackplate so dial it in as I run. Changes for each prop and water condition usually.
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    1976 21' Challenger 2002 3.1 Yami 250 Vmax phase lll 89.7-sold
    1982 21' Superboat 300merc-87
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    Quote Originally Posted by allstock View Post
    Yes lots of experience with them and on my rig they run 2-2.5" stiff. Slip runs 3% so clearly they are under rated on the pitch scale. I stopped blowing my horn on these a few years ago because all I ever heard was "oh they are cheap offshore prop gotta run a merc prop BLa Bla Bla....." I've run them hard for three years never cracked never thrown a blade and fastest numbers on my rig by far. I had my local prop guy drill them for PVS plugs which work great.
    Same as I discovered off the bat....thanks for sharing.
    1990 22' Activator Yami HPDI 300-sold-86.4
    1976 21' Challenger 2002 3.1 Yami 250 Vmax phase lll 89.7-sold
    1982 21' Superboat 300merc-87
    1990 22' Activator yami OX66 Vmax 250-84.2
    1982 30' Scarab-twin 200 Merc-sold
    1979 21' Challenger 300 Evenrude-sold
    1979 21' Superboat 200 Merc-sold-72

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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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