Tricks that old racers get up to after retirement

[FUJIMO]

...never been to savanah. but its on my bucket list...

[jackiewilson]

WELL —you managed to lose a shed load of useless old chatter—- we should do it again sometime — i just love wasting my time .

[jackiewilson]

JUST WAITING. FOR S + F to sort itself out—— !!!!!!!!!

[jackiewilson]

One day ??????

[jackiewilson]

DOESNT look like s and f are ever going to find all the lost posts ????????
Suppose they all got lost in cyber space !!!!!!!
ok let‘s start all over again . I will post some of the efforts i have been up to over the last couple of weeks .

[FUJIMO]

[jackiewilson]

I am shipping a trunk full of concepts to the OFF Meeting next month . Six tunnel circuit boats ——@ $400 apiece [all metal]. five offshore . @ $500 each Three old wooden SWITZERS @$150 apiece
If anyone wants any of these —let me know PM —i will save it for you wherever possible .

[FUJIMO]

[jackiewilson]

Gary Stray called in this afternoon for a quiet DRINK and a chat —- he does have a few surprises in store for all the OFF guests.
He‘s heading home tomorrow after a very successful MONTE CARLO BOAT SHOW.
I think MILES JENNINGS got all his sh-t together and did quite well at the last offshore race down in Falmouth Cornwall this weekend.
No doubt about it —summers gone—fall is well and truly here .

[Lake X Kid]

Milesmaster was the first race boat, that I recall with the Air-Fin running the full length (bow to stern) on the deck.
It was early 1970s at Winderemere. I walked over to the boat, and Freddy told me, he went to an engineer (I don't recall who) and had the aero package designed.

I think the boat was a full tunnel, and not a pickelfork.
However, here is a Milesmaster photo, similar to what I saw.

[jackiewilson]

Milesmaster was the first race boat, that I recall with the Air-Fin running the full length (bow to stern) on the deck.
It was early 1970s at Winderemere. I walked over to the boat, and Freddy told me, he went to an engineer (I don't recall who) and had the aero package designed.

I think the boat was a full tunnel, and not a pickelfork.
However, here is a Milesmaster photo, similar to what I saw.

There wasn‘t a single pickle in europe in 1970 !!!!!!!!
First one i ever saw was a Ron Jones design in Havasu 1971
Freddy was always ahead of the game and saw it there too. Cannot for the life in me remember when he came out with his first pickle . Renato came out with his first around mid 82.
With a name like PICKLEFORK it could only have come from the USA — wasn't such a utensil in Europe called a PICKLE FORK ——it would have been an ONION FORK. Pickle over here was PICCALLILY, you could never pick that up with a two pronged eating iron.
Fairly sure SEEBOLD did a full length airflow. And the angled cutaway sponson !!!!!!

[Amberjack1234]

Aerodynamics and fluid dynamics

There wasn‘t a single pickle in europe in 1970 !!!!!!!!
First one i ever saw was a Ron Jones design in Havasu 1971
Freddy was always ahead of the game and saw it there too. Cannot for the life in me remember when he came out with his first pickle . Renato came out with his first around mid 82.
With a name like PICKLEFORK it could only have come from the USA — wasn't such a utensil in Europe called a PICKLE FORK ——it would have been an ONION FORK. Pickle over here was PICCALLILY, you could never pick that up with a two pronged eating iron.
Fairly sure SEEBOLD did a full length airflow. And the angled cutaway sponson !!!!!!

I never had formal training in aerodynamics or fluid flow. If you hang around and observe you can pick up from smarter people in the essence of what works and what doesn’t. Also through experimentation ie: Going ass over tea kettle enough you can learn what works and what doesn’t it’s just a question of being able to survive the experience. If you’re smart enough and tough enough to learn from your mistakes you can get through life and boat racing. Like I’ve said before I was just a local racer hanging around boat racing in Miami for a lot of years. But I was able to absorb and learn a lot from the multitude of fine boat racers in the area. Not to be a little any of the other boat racers in the world of racing with some of the finest we’re good all the local boys from South Florida. Best to everyone.

[jackiewilson]

Aerodynamics and fluid dynamics
I never had formal training in aerodynamics or fluid flow. If you hang around and observe you can pick up from smarter people in the essence of what works and what doesn’t. Also through experimentation ie: Going ass over tea kettle enough you can learn what works and what doesn’t it’s just a question of being able to survive the experience. If you’re smart enough and tough enough to learn from your mistakes you can get through life and boat racing. Like I’ve said before I was just a local racer hanging around boat racing in Miami for a lot of years. But I was able to absorb and learn a lot from the multitude of fine boat racers in the area. Not to be a little any of the other boat racers in the world of racing with some of the finest we’re good all the local boys from South Florida. Best to everyone.

No such thing as a BORN boat racer —-not even The SEEBOLDS or the WILSONS were born racers —-they all learned the hard way.
All the boat racers i ever knew had a separate life [usually one that funded the habit] we were all apple pie normal regular people .
there were a few well heeled individuals who could afford everything and simply bought the best [just because they could ]. Had the greatest fun of all taking their pants down [coloquilly speaking of course ]

John Nicholsen once bought tenT2‘s and all the spares to go with them—- didnt make him the best racer by any means ——— ive seen bankers and industrialists —-millionaires and paupers all racing together —- boat racing is a level playing field . You either take it in -learn by your mistakes -never ever get it wrong twice or you will not ever make it in the sport which will dominate and rule the rest of your life . Its only the start and finish line are the two constants in boat racing ——-you’re on your own at all points in between.

[jackiewilson]

Not everyday that you see a single point load cell being used as an offshore boat mount [sost between 10-15 thousand apiece —-picked a pair up at the scrapyard friday.

[WaterZebra]

No such thing as a BORN boat racer —-not even The SEEBOLDS or the WILSONS were born racers —-they all learned the hard way.
All the boat racers i ever knew had a separate life [usually one that funded the habit] we were all apple pie normal regular people .
there were a few well heeled individuals who could afford everything and simply bought the best [just because they could ]. Had the greatest fun of all taking their pants down [coloquilly speaking of course ]

John Nicholsen once bought tenT2‘s and all the spares to go with them—- didnt make him the best racer by any means ——— ive seen bankers and industrialists —-millionaires and paupers all racing together —- boat racing is a level playing field . You either take it in -learn by your mistakes -never ever get it wrong twice or you will not ever make it in the sport which will dominate and rule the rest of your life . Its only the start and finish line are the two constants in boat racing ——-you’re on your own at all points in between.

Yep............never had much respect for those who "bought" their way in to boat racing by writing checks. The "tinkerers" and experimenters were my inspiration. Seebold once asked about something I built for my boat and I replied that I couldn't afford to buy it, so I made it instead.