Evinrude Super Strangler!

**Greg G** · 12-16-2013, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Rotary John

Guys: The factory race engine of the early '70s used 2 Mec power trim units; one for trim (in & out) and one for lift. I actually designed and built a single pump unit as a weight saving that did both, but since Blanchard didn't design it, it was never used. The V-4's put out 180/185 PROPSHAFT hp at the time. That's why when the rotary hit at 265 PROPSHAFT hp they were so dominant.

I was under the impression that when the Super Strangler was introduced in 1972 that it did NOT have the 1" up and down lift. What year was that added?

**Rotary John** · 12-16-2013, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

Who`s Blanchard? Sounds like corporate politics/egos involved.

DB

More ego than corp politics. If you weren't part of Leeks team, you weren't really part of the race team. I didn't work for Leek, but was part of the rotary engine group.Clarence Blanchard was Jack Leeks designer. Later on he worked with Nerstrom. He was responsible for the first prototype V-6's that won Paris in 1974 and the darth vader look gear cases in the later 70's.

**Rotary John** · 12-16-2013, 07:35 AM

Can't really answer your question but the rotary had the same trim/lift unit from the get go in late 72.

**powerabout** · 12-16-2013, 10:34 AM

I think the KR13 didnt have it
OMC lists the KR15 as being a 73 year model hence same ignition ( basically ) as a 73 135

**Freddie Webb** · 12-16-2013, 12:57 PM

I had a kr15 and yes it up/down and in/out. Bull had some of the pistons you were looking for with the high rings and no scallops. I just gave them away about two months ago. I wish I would have held on to my Weeks ccc, my rs, and my kr15 but times were tough.

**upyours** · 12-16-2013, 01:29 PM

times are still tough, will post pictures soon

**Greg G** · 12-16-2013, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Rotary John

Guys:The factory race V-4 Super Stranglers put out 180/185 PROPSHAFT hp at the time. That's why when the rotary hit at 265 PROPSHAFT hp they were so dominant.

So let me understand:

Easily 185 prop shaft horsepower
7200 RPM
15" midsection
Lower Unit that was better than a Sportmaster for hydrodynamics
Full 20 degree power trim
A 1" built in power jack plate function
258lbs total weight with pumps

**upyours** · 12-16-2013, 09:34 PM

anddddd!

**Greg G** · 12-17-2013, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by upyours

i have one of the kr-15's with both lower units that i will start to restore soon i had it in my shop for 25 years

Does your Super Strangler KR15 have both the power trim and the integrated 1" jack plate?

**upyours** · 12-17-2013, 11:38 AM

yes it does have both I will try to take pic and post this week this engine is disassembled so I can get some good pictures

**Greg G** · 12-17-2013, 11:50 AM

That would be very cool, thanks! The Super Strangler/Stinger GP 8 pumpers must have been mean mofos back in the day.

**Greg G** · 12-17-2013, 11:53 AM

A general question for those of you who have run them and worked on them. Would a Super Strangler 8 pumper have the grunt to push a 16 foot 1500lb V hull to 84mph? No pad on the boat just round bottom V. I'm not good with what the lower units would have done as far as slip % and the like but I'm sure there is some math that could give a range.

**racer** · 12-17-2013, 11:56 AM

John, The up/down was built into the mount system so not a merc unit they did not even have up down at the time. My memory of the trim is a pump very similar to merc but made by Prestolite who may have also made the merc unit. What I am saying is OMC did not go buy trim pumps from Merc.

**Rotary John** · 12-17-2013, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by racer

John, The up/down was built into the mount system so not a merc unit they did not even have up down at the time. My memory of the trim is a pump very similar to merc but made by Prestolite who may have also made the merc unit. What I am saying is OMC did not go buy trim pumps from Merc.

You are correct, Merc did not have power lift at the time. What I said was OMC used 2 Merc Pumps. If my memory serves me right, they were made by Prestolite. They had a gear pump, a 12v motor and an integral reservoir with an 12v control vale to change fluid flow directions. OMC's lift was integrated into the swivel bracket. really a very simple piston on the swivel bracket rod, seals on both ends and inlet-outlet on both ends. I'm not sure OMC even used the Merc trim cylinder on their units. I just don't remember anymore. That's why I designed the single pump/motor unit with a single reservoir. It took a bunch of weight out of the boat and simplified to electrical/hydraulic systems.