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    Quote Originally Posted by JWTjr. View Post
    This is because the Europeans have a totally different vehicle tow rating system than we do. First, their vehicle manufacturers, hitch manufacturers and governments are all in communication with each other and collaborate to calculate the maximum towing load of each vehicle. Second, they also collaborate to determine the only allowable hitch attachment points, and these are detailed in the "whole vehicle identification plate", which we have on US cars also but ours does not contain this information. Our vehicle manufacturers, hitch manufacturers and government do not collaborate on towing attachment points and towing ratings. In fact, the last time the VESC vehicle code committee met was back in 1983. The VESC has not been active since then. Today, the SAE is the only active body that studies towing. The Europeans also require hydraulic surge brakes on even small trailers, so this helps to provide more stopping capability.
    Thank you, John. I now understand why US tow ratings are (from my perspective) so low.

    Correction, though: surge brakes are required, but not necessarily hydraulic.
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    Markus, can you find me a 2007 Volvo V70 R AWD Wagon to tow with and ship it over? Those suckers are impossible to come by over here!

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    There seem to be a few in Germany:

    http://suchen.mobile.de/auto/search....&ambitCountry=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    Thank you, John. I now understand why US tow ratings are (from my perspective) so low.

    Correction, though: surge brakes are required, but not necessarily hydraulic.
    Markus, that's the "technical" reason. The "marketing" reason is that since the boom in SUV and truck sales began in the mid-1990s, the US auto manufacturers have been discouraging us from towing with cars. The tow ratings on larger US cars that were previously popular tow vehicles (Ford LTD/Crown Victoria, GM Caprice/Roadmaster, etc.) were downgraded from 5000 lbs. (typically) to 2000 lbs. in the 1996-98 timeframe. That was the end of any serious towing with cars in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    Markus, can you find me a 2007 Volvo V70 R AWD Wagon to tow with and ship it over? Those suckers are impossible to come by over here!
    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    Very cool Marcus. The V70 "R" AWD Wagon is very versatile while being a barn burner in disguise. You must find a 2006 or 2007 model year though as they have a much stronger 6 speed tranny. They can tow 3500lbs no problem, and can seat 7 if you find the rear facing jumper seat option. Volvo should never have stopped making it IMO.

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    there was a guy around here who would tow his 28 skater behind a beat up 80's Sedan D'Ville

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    The Aussies have their car towing stuff down pat. The 04-06 Pontiac GTOs(Holden Monaro) had a brace under the rear of the car that a hitch could be mounted to and Holden had a 3500 lb rating capacity for it. Pontiac simply stated the car wasn't designed to tow anything. The Holden Commodore (Pontiac G8) was rated for 3500 lbs with trailer brakes and 1500 or 2000 without.

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    I know it's not new but I towed with a 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood for a few years. With the 16' Checkmate Enticer I was able to get 24 mpg driving 65 mph. With the 21' Checkmate Pulsare I often drove in 3rd gear and mileage dropped to about 15 mpg. All the 1994 - 1996 Fleetwoods can tow 5,000 pounds and there are a few that can tow 7,000 (RPO Code V4P) with a weight distribution hitch. I think the car looks a little ridiculous but its comfortable on trips, huge inside and has a massive trunk for all my boating crap. Just food for thought.
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    I bet a Taurus sho would haul a boat just fine. awd, 4000lb car and almost 400hp. seems like a good car?

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    Im putting a hitch on my 300 hemi. Have no doubt it will pull my Allison with ease. Crown vics , Cadillac DTS, anything v8 or big V6 should have no trouble. I always thought a Dodge Magnum make a sharp tow car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whipper View Post
    Im putting a hitch on my 300 hemi. Have no doubt it will pull my Allison with ease. Crown vics , Cadillac DTS, anything v8 or big V6 should have no trouble. I always thought a Dodge Magnum make a sharp tow car.
    +1 on the magnum, got some wheelbase, weight, power, and room for the people

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    I put a hitch on my 05 Magnum has a 3.5 towed my Vegas with no problem. but it sits pretty low (not from tongue wt) scrapped backing in the driveway. going to use my 56 f100 instead, ill' try and get a picture of both
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    Anybody tow with a 2007 ford escape 3.0 v6 front wheel drive?

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    A V6 Escape works well for towing my Allison

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